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Re: Tell HN: Salary data is for sale

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The information for my limited company earnings is also available online as part of the company accounts and you can probably work out my day rate from it.

Not sure I care that much. Also, I don't think someone who thinks they deserve a big bump and has passed the interview I wouldn't necessarily say it's the most immoral crime to suggest your previous salary was higher than it really was. Surely you have a job that is paying X and the person can either do the job well or not.

Why should I be worried about others knowing what I earn?

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I am neither American nor Chinese, nor live in either country. Their governments both do awful things around the world as well as domestically, but here’s one reason I’d rather live in the former: you can publicly criticize the government, and organise an opposition to it.

You can also talk more publicly about any topic pretty much - being "cancelled" in the US is laughable compared to the Chinese version of cancelled (i.e. deleted from the Internet, publicly humiliated and/or possibly disappeared for weeks on end for even a mild suggestion that the financial system is not optimal in China, something reasonably up for discussion).

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I find the EU approach so much better. Your personal data (which means anything that can be used to uniquely identify you as a person) is your property, and the default is "no permission to use".

That's a view through rose-colored glasses, GDPR isn't that powerful (and it only applies to user-supplied data, not all personal data). As a relevant example, in Sweden your taxable income is public information.

The main problem with GDPR is that it is hard to enforce because the enforcing authorities are overworked, focusing on the wrong things, and bogging themselves down in their own bureaucracy.

> only applies to user-supplied data, not all personal data

I don't believe this is correct: https://gdpr-info.eu/art-4-gdpr/

Maybe you're confusing this with the different lawful grounds for processing, and the fact that consent has quite strict requirements but there are other lawful grounds that don't require consent? https://gdpr-info.eu/art-6-gdpr/

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Why don't you try searching "tiananmen square" in China and see where that gets you? No country is perfect, the US certainly isn't, but I would still take this over China's social scoring system

I believe that the outcome of searching "tiananmen square" in China is a page of poor quality results and possibly slow internet for some time, but no meaningful consequences beyond that.

Re: Tell HN: Salary data is for sale

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I find the EU approach so much better. Your personal data (which means anything that can be used to uniquely identify you as a person) is your property, and the default is "no permission to use".

In Germany we have our own data kraken though. See Schufa. Even with GDPR you're basically forced to hand data over to them.

Re: Tell HN: Salary data is for sale

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I think you are thinking of form I-9, which is federally required. SS Card is one of may accepted forms of ID, I always use my passport instead.

> SS Card is one of may accepted forms of ID Are those still as I remember them - with no biometric information (like a photo) and basically no security features?

It’s not intended to be a secure ID. It’s meant to be the number by which you claim your social security benefits. It’s just warped into this ungodly mess because people use it as a “secure” number.
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