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Re: A curated list of warez and piracy links

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Post by maccard »

I subscribe to Netflix, Disney+ and Amazon (although that's just a byproduct of prime), and am happy to continue paying ~£30/month (which is roughly what a basic Cable package would cost me), and even pay the occasional £20 one off for a digital purchase of a "cinema" movie (see: Disney+'s recent releases, new bond movie etc).

However, when studios resort to pulling tricks like [0], artificially limiting content (john wick 2 is available on netflix, but to watch the first, you have to purchase it on another service), or just being fragmented (which of the 5 apps on my PC has the content I'm looking for?) I start to get super frustrated at the services, and if this continues will either likely just stop paying for the content, or look elsewhere. The content needs to be easily accessible in high quality or it's going to lose to piracy.

[0] https://www.digitalspy.com/movies/a37170236/black-widow-scar...

Re: A curated list of warez and piracy links

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Post by rg111 »

chiheisen wrote: post #56
hwers wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? It's legal? Would that mean someone running a torrent site should move their operation to switzerland to avoid getting prison time?

Leeching is. Seeding is not. Its also more of a legal grayzone rather than a blanket "this is allowed".

Only German lawyers are disgusting enough to go after seeders and downloaders who never intend to distribute "illegally" downloaded content. Sometimes they themselves seed torrents and monitor who else is seeding or leeching. If they happen to not use VPNs or proxy, and based in Germany, they get a legal notice from them.

Nobody ever went to jail doing this. Some paid hefty fines, though.

But a friend said that you can send them a counter notice where they have to prove that it was you at that time at that computer downloading or uploading. After doing this, someone he knows never heard back from these absolute parasites of the society.

(I am not a lawyer, and this should not be taken as legal advice.)

Re: A curated list of warez and piracy links

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Post by 5etho »

strobe999 wrote: post #57
hwers wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? It's legal? Would that mean someone running a torrent site should move their operation to switzerland to avoid getting prison time?

OP couldve been a bit more precise in their statement. Downloading is legal, uploading isnt.

and as a law student, it's stupid that torrent seeding is considered as releasing something to the internet. It is meant to be penal to be releaser or initial uploader - at least in polish(europe) criminal code, but non-technical judges just go with it, I hate it, but i'm not sure what polish equivalent of polish SCOTUS wrote about it to be honest

as always lobbing by big companys is designed to screw over teenagers and common folk for exaple, got(HBO) in freench amazon 50$ afterdiscount, in polish stores - 250$, how to not pirate when minimal earnings - 750$

Re: A curated list of warez and piracy links

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Post by short12 »

ogogmad wrote: post #3

How are films supposed to get funded if people get them for free? The current status quo is that we have two methods of obtaining a film: - Via file sharing. You have to wait for the whole film to finish downloading before you can watch it. This is inconvenient. - Via streaming services. You can watch a film before it's finished downloading. The latter costs money, but is more convenient. While certainly some of that…

>How are films supposed to get funded if people get them for free?

I don't care is an acceptable answer here

Live off the fat of the land. Judging from how profitable movies are, there is plenty of fat

Re: A curated list of warez and piracy links

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Post by cookie_monsta »

yellowapple wrote: post #59
ogogmad wrote: post #3

How are films supposed to get funded if people get them for free? The current status quo is that we have two methods of obtaining a film: - Via file sharing. You have to wait for the whole film to finish downloading before you can watch it. This is inconvenient. - Via streaming services. You can watch a film before it's finished downloading. The latter costs money, but is more convenient. While certainly some of that…

> How are films supposed to get funded if people get them for free? Film "success" is still measured primarily in box office revenues, indicating - to me at least - that a successful theatrical release is where the money's at. There are certainly some people out there who would rather watch some shaky camcorder recording of a theater screen for free than actually go to a movie theater, but it doesn't seem like that's…

> some shaky camcorder recording of a theater screen

Haha. I remember this from... 15 years ago? The pirating industry has moved on substantially since then

Re: A curated list of warez and piracy links

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Post by ratww »

mikaelsouza wrote: post #45

I remember most if not all cracked games used to have virus on their executables. People always said that you shouldn’t care about what the antivirus said, but now I am wondering, why the antivirus alerted about viruses? Does anyone know? Were they really safe or not?

Cracking tools often compress their code for whatever reason. Some antivirus apps often report every compressed executable, such as anything using UPX, as being infected. That also happens with demoscene-style code, like MOD players that tend to be included in cracking tools.

The reason for that is that once upon a time some virus used UPX (or some demoscene tool), and the antivirus associated that with the virus. But some antiviruses also often detect cracked stuff and report it as being virus, purely because they're killjoys.

Commercial antiviruses are a plague as bad as virus themselves, unfortunately.

Re: A curated list of warez and piracy links

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Post by Liquid_Fire »

ogogmad wrote: post #14
Semaphor wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

file sharing: Your premise is incorrect, you can stream them as well. streaming service: If you figure out which service to use. If the service that has them is available in your region. And has that movie with your preferred language. And with your preferred subtitle language. Only if all points are checked do streaming services become more convenient… mostly. There are then also companies like Netflix or Amazon who…

> file sharing: Your premise is incorrect, you can stream them as well. Doesn't BitTorrent download the file in random order, instead of from beginning to end? I thought there was a good reason why it had to do that. I thought the only alternative was centralisation.

It's usually not a (fully) random order, but rather the least-available (from other peers) parts get prioritised, to ensure maximum overall throughput. e.g. if 10 clients have the first part, but only 2 have the second part, it will prefer to download the second part first if possible.

But as the other replies say, your client can request any part it wishes. A few clients doing this won't have a significant effect on the overall throughput. Even if most clients were doing this, it would mostly only result in slightly lower download speeds overall.

The exception is for torrents with very few seeders, where this can have a much worse effect, but you are unlikely to be able to stream those sequentially at a reasonable speed anyway.

Re: A curated list of warez and piracy links

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Post by ratww »

cookie_monsta wrote: post #65
yellowapple wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How are films supposed to get funded if people get them for free? Film "success" is still measured primarily in box office revenues, indicating - to me at least - that a successful theatrical release is where the money's at. There are certainly some people out there who would rather watch some shaky camcorder recording of a theater screen for free than actually go to a movie theater, but it doesn't seem like that's…

> some shaky camcorder recording of a theater screen Haha. I remember this from... 15 years ago? The pirating industry has moved on substantially since then

That still happens, especially with tentpole movies. Sometimes it takes a few weeks after release for a non-shaky pirate recording to be widespread.

Re: A curated list of warez and piracy links

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Post by NmAmDa »

ogogmad wrote: post #12
charcircuit wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>You have to wait for the whole film to finish downloading It depends on the video file format. If the file format supports opening partial files you can just open them when downloading. >The latter costs money There are plenty of free movie streaming sites.

>>You have to wait for the whole film to finish downloading >It depends on the video file format. If the file format supports opening partial files you can just open them when downloading. I based my assumption on the fact that BitTorrent doesn't download the file from beginning to end in order. It downloads the file in a random order.

If it was not possible to download in order, things like popcorn wouldn't be there for years. It streams torrent movies via this method.

Re: A curated list of warez and piracy links

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Post by PeterisP »

mikaelsouza wrote: post #45

I remember most if not all cracked games used to have virus on their executables. People always said that you shouldn’t care about what the antivirus said, but now I am wondering, why the antivirus alerted about viruses? Does anyone know? Were they really safe or not?

An antivirus telling that something is malware does not necessarily mean that it is malicious. For example, they will often report that a keygen - which I've checked that literally does nothing else than display the generated key - is malicious because it can be used for piracy.
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