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Re: A curated list of warez and piracy links

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Post by hsbauauvhabzb »

the8472 wrote: post #15
Semaphor wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

file sharing: Your premise is incorrect, you can stream them as well. streaming service: If you figure out which service to use. If the service that has them is available in your region. And has that movie with your preferred language. And with your preferred subtitle language. Only if all points are checked do streaming services become more convenient… mostly. There are then also companies like Netflix or Amazon who…

> file sharing: Your premise is incorrect, you can stream them as well. Of sorts, when there's enough excess bandwidth available that fairness doesn't really matter. By design bittorrent randomizes download order to improve the ability of peers to be of mutual interest to enable tit-for-tat.

If enough pirates cared about streaming, there would be better p2p streaming. But bandwidth is cheap and movies take minutes.

Re: A curated list of warez and piracy links

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Post by hsbauauvhabzb »

ogogmad wrote: post #6
bubblethink wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>How are films supposed to get funded if people get them for free? You can fund them before the fact with patronage. That is, recoup the cost beforehand, and the work is free for everyone to enjoy after it is made.

I thought about this. Can you get sufficient funding via this method? Some films are really expensive.

So films need to be expensive? I believe the dark night was in the 300m+ range. What would a 50m budget get?

Re: A curated list of warez and piracy links

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Post by francis-io »

m_a_g wrote: post #27

I can't decide between mullvad and private internet access. Any suggestions?

I know it's not on the list, but look into IVPN. I liked the multi tunnel option. For sensitive things, you might want to chain VPNs, or use Tor through a VPN.

Side note: All these ads for VPN services you see now really makes it seem like you should use a VPN. Do most people need a VPN? You trade off an ISP snooping to a VPN provider snooping. Here in the UK, ISPs can't sell my browsing data, and are more regulated than private companies, so maybe that influences my opinion here.

Re: A curated list of warez and piracy links

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Post by underlines »

I grew up in the late 90ies with internet in Switzerland, and as a broke pre-teen and teenager I was used to getting EVERYTHING pirated and this habit sticked with me, even though when in later years I was working as a software developer.

Torrenting, sharing with friends and family is still completely legal in Switzerland.

Only after pay services like spotify became a thing and were more convenient than managing and tagging my multi TB sized aac/mp3 library, I switched.

Same for Netflix. But since fragmentation of streaming services started to happen, I'm going back to things like stremio/torrents/DDL sites.

For software, as a hobbyist videographer I wouldn't purchase the Adobe suite and all the expensive VFX tools I use for my family videos. But whatever software I use professionally (at work and at my employer), I'm of course getting proper licenses.

Re: A curated list of warez and piracy links

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

mikaelsouza wrote: post #45

I remember most if not all cracked games used to have virus on their executables. People always said that you shouldn’t care about what the antivirus said, but now I am wondering, why the antivirus alerted about viruses? Does anyone know? Were they really safe or not?

How often did you encounter "false positives" downloading normal shareware applications?

There's your answer.

Re: A curated list of warez and piracy links

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Post by sputr »

ogogmad wrote: post #3

How are films supposed to get funded if people get them for free? The current status quo is that we have two methods of obtaining a film: - Via file sharing. You have to wait for the whole film to finish downloading before you can watch it. This is inconvenient. - Via streaming services. You can watch a film before it's finished downloading. The latter costs money, but is more convenient. While certainly some of that…

> The conclusion is that obtaining films legally via streaming services remains the most convenient option

Try living outside the US :).

> What is your model for how films should get funded?

I don't see the movie industry suffering all that much. So maybe ... they can figure it out themselves since it's obviously working well enough, and it's not a life&death situation, but one of optimization. https://www.statista.com/statistics/260198/filmed-entertainm...

Re: A curated list of warez and piracy links

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Post by DrBazza »

ogogmad wrote: post #3

How are films supposed to get funded if people get them for free? The current status quo is that we have two methods of obtaining a film: - Via file sharing. You have to wait for the whole film to finish downloading before you can watch it. This is inconvenient. - Via streaming services. You can watch a film before it's finished downloading. The latter costs money, but is more convenient. While certainly some of that…

> How are films supposed to get funded if people get them for free?

> What is your model for how films should get funded?

The same way free-to-air TV pays for itself - adverts. Either a couple of ad breaks in the film, or rotating watermarks on screen throughout the film. And make getting it easier than me finding the equivalent torrent. Release schedule - cinema, streaming, 'free'.

When films aren't available on any of the streaming services I subscribe to, what do you expect me to do? Pay another £60 per annum to watch one film on a streaming service I'll never use again? I read somewhere there are 1000 streaming services in the UK, and over 2000 in the US.

I've said before on here, it's a shame we didn't have today's bandwidth back in the mp3 days, because that forced the hand of the music industry to back iTunes, or Spotify, and only now they're beginning to fragment a little. If the video industry was under pressure from widescale cheap piracy, we'd have an industry wide streaming site. Instead we have Netflix, Prime, Hulu, Disney+, HBO, and so on.

One day before launch Paramount pulled Star Trek Discovery off Netflix to their own streaming service. Can you guess what the most pirated TV show was over the following weeks?

To be clear, I don't agree with piracy, but I have zero sympathy for movie studios and their shitty walled gardens.

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