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Re: A curated list of warez and piracy links

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Post by ogogmad »

Youden wrote: post #10
ogogmad wrote: post #3

How are films supposed to get funded if people get them for free? The current status quo is that we have two methods of obtaining a film: - Via file sharing. You have to wait for the whole film to finish downloading before you can watch it. This is inconvenient. - Via streaming services. You can watch a film before it's finished downloading. The latter costs money, but is more convenient. While certainly some of that…

I can't speak for others but I generally turn to piracy when legal options are unavailable or unviable. For example it's basically impossible to legally watch anime with English subtitles in my region, so I have no alternative to piracy. It's the same story for more mainstream content. There was no legal way to stream Game of Thrones in English when it was being aired. There's no way legal way to stream Star Trek Dis…

> I can't speak for others but I generally turn to piracy when legal options are unavailable or unviable.

I do this too.

But I asked whether copyright enforcement was necessary for films to get adequately funded. I'm assuming that the problems you've described with region locking aren't there. I resort to piracy when I have no other options.

Re: A curated list of warez and piracy links

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Post by ogogmad »

shmerl wrote: post #7
ogogmad wrote: post #3

How are films supposed to get funded if people get them for free? The current status quo is that we have two methods of obtaining a film: - Via file sharing. You have to wait for the whole film to finish downloading before you can watch it. This is inconvenient. - Via streaming services. You can watch a film before it's finished downloading. The latter costs money, but is more convenient. While certainly some of that…

May be start with how did copyright term get to such insane length and why isn't it being rolled back?

I agree with you, but you aren't answering my question about funding. The question is an existential one about whether copyright should exist at all, and be enforced too.

Re: A curated list of warez and piracy links

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Post by p1necone »

ogogmad wrote: post #3

How are films supposed to get funded if people get them for free? The current status quo is that we have two methods of obtaining a film: - Via file sharing. You have to wait for the whole film to finish downloading before you can watch it. This is inconvenient. - Via streaming services. You can watch a film before it's finished downloading. The latter costs money, but is more convenient. While certainly some of that…

I subscribe to three different streaming services, and if I really like something that isn't on them I'll buy a Blu Ray or DVD. I also rent stuff on YouTube.

But I have no qualms about pirating things that simply aren't purchasable without jumping through hoops (or at all as is the case for most older TV shows that are even a little bit obscure).

Re: A curated list of warez and piracy links

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Post by schleck8 »

ogogmad wrote: post #12
charcircuit wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>You have to wait for the whole film to finish downloading It depends on the video file format. If the file format supports opening partial files you can just open them when downloading. >The latter costs money There are plenty of free movie streaming sites.

>>You have to wait for the whole film to finish downloading >It depends on the video file format. If the file format supports opening partial files you can just open them when downloading. I based my assumption on the fact that BitTorrent doesn't download the file from beginning to end in order. It downloads the file in a random order.

No, it can download files in order. Almost all clients have that option.

Re: A curated list of warez and piracy links

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Post by ogogmad »

schleck8 wrote: post #25
ogogmad wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>You have to wait for the whole film to finish downloading >It depends on the video file format. If the file format supports opening partial files you can just open them when downloading. I based my assumption on the fact that BitTorrent doesn't download the file from beginning to end in order. It downloads the file in a random order.

No, it can download files in order. Almost all clients have that option.

Isn't the random order option better in some way? Is there a way of using probability to quantify this in some way? I'm thinking that there's a higher probability that a random "chunk" of a file will be available if the chunks are downloaded randomly. But I haven't looked into this enough to know.

Re: A curated list of warez and piracy links

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Post by Youden »

ogogmad wrote: post #21
Youden wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't speak for others but I generally turn to piracy when legal options are unavailable or unviable. For example it's basically impossible to legally watch anime with English subtitles in my region, so I have no alternative to piracy. It's the same story for more mainstream content. There was no legal way to stream Game of Thrones in English when it was being aired. There's no way legal way to stream Star Trek Dis…

> I can't speak for others but I generally turn to piracy when legal options are unavailable or unviable. I do this too. But I asked whether copyright enforcement was necessary for films to get adequately funded. I'm assuming that the problems you've described with region locking aren't there. I resort to piracy when I have no other options.

> But I asked whether copyright enforcement was necessary for films to get adequately funded.

I addressed that by referencing a study that concludes piracy has no measurable impact on revenue.

Re: A curated list of warez and piracy links

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Post by johnchristopher »

ogogmad wrote: post #3

How are films supposed to get funded if people get them for free? The current status quo is that we have two methods of obtaining a film: - Via file sharing. You have to wait for the whole film to finish downloading before you can watch it. This is inconvenient. - Via streaming services. You can watch a film before it's finished downloading. The latter costs money, but is more convenient. While certainly some of that…

> [edit] It's interesting that this is getting so many downvotes, even though it's asking a question and the premises are currently true. As other commenters have pointed out, BitTorrent downloads a file in random order and not from beginning to end, and this is less convenient than streaming.

Don't bother, the narrative here is that Netflix, Disney+, IP owners and distributors are literally forcing people to pirate content not available to them through their subscriptions.

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