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Post by xfz »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #298
exdsq wrote: post #252

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Out of interest what’s your cv look like for that rate?

https://battle.shawwn.com/Shawn%20Presser's%20Resume.pdf If it looks surprisingly dull, I hope it inspires you to realize you can get similar rates. I’m not particularly special; just determined, and willing to say no to low offers. (The initial offer was salary equal to half this rate plus stock. Being completely uninterested in stock is a tricky thing — you can offend your colleagues unless you’re especially tactfu…

It's a great CV. Very focused on what matters. As you say the CV isn't the most important part, but it shows what you offer now and conveys your many years experience without the noise (e.g. details of what tools/frameworks you were using in 2010 - who cares!)

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Post by NotSammyHagar »

detaro wrote: post #177
throwawaygh wrote: post #158

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> Someone with the "wrong" degree but talent and relevant experience would easily beat someone with a fancy "Masters of Information Security" degree that then muddled around in less relevant areas. Sure, totally agreed. > Focusing on people's degrees is almost always the wrong measure in IT. Maybe 20 years ago. (I was there.) Today, asking for exceptional technical depth and a proven track-record of leadership is not…

And the linked article and the common references to it highlight almost exclusively "wrong degree/education" instead of "no relevant experience/track-record" (if that's the case, no clue what her experience looked like on paper. but the article also brushes it away with a sentence just to focus back on education). That's my problem with it.

I'm guessing you are from non-traditional background and work in it somehow. Having a track record is pretty basic when evaluating people for high level positions who have non-traditional backgrounds. Why is this upsetting to you?

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Post by rocqua »

Pixeleen wrote: post #299
staunch wrote: post #115

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When I submit the myprivacy.equifax.com validation it hangs at "Processing..." indefinitely. #AbolishCreditAgencies

Credit, bank checking (ChexSystems), and personal information aggregators like Lexis Nexis and Thomson Reuters Clear ought to be abolished or curbed indeed. I hate to bring trans politics into this. I'm sure that's the last thing anybody wants to hear about right now. However we are a class of people whose sexuality can be unfairly identified by these databases.

Is the issue 'just' that they misgender trans people? That alone is already shitty of course. Or is the issue also that it makes later 'verification' by these agencies more difficult if the recorded gender does not match the apparent gender of the person?

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Post by caddybox »

jokethrowaway wrote: post #383
sofixa wrote: post #131

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Or, combine with other people to fight the ridiculous system? Even if you manage to pull off a life like this, you're limiting yourself significantly and leaving many people behind.

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> It's impossible, people are not rebelling after being forced in their homes for two years

Did you ever get the news that the world went through a pandemic and millions of people lost their lives? We all hate being cooped up at home but what's the alternative? What did you expect the governments to do when they had no other solutions?

When you talk about good countries, please remember that their citizens make them so. If you ever happen to move to one of these "good" countries, please remember that these societies are built upon a collective realization that rights come with a set of moral duties and obligations towards each other. By staying inside, we bought old, sick and immune-compromised people some time till a vaccine arrived.

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Post by giddyOnDown1 »

registeredcorn wrote: post #87
vulcan01 wrote: post #74

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You don't need to. Your employer can give this info to whoever they want, and many give this data to Equifax or one of the other credit agencies. Also, you might give your bank employment details, and your bank will most likely send that info to a credit agency as well. There's not much of an escape.

What exactly do employers and banks stand to gain from sharing this information? Is it an exchange of information for money?

From what I recall at my time there, banks use it as supplemental source of creditworthiness validation. The government also pays for the data to verify eligibility for welfare and other social services. Employers...I don't think were a major revenue source although I wouldn't be surprised if some used it to inform their salary thresholds.

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Post by Pixeleen »

rocqua wrote: post #414
Pixeleen wrote: post #299

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Credit, bank checking (ChexSystems), and personal information aggregators like Lexis Nexis and Thomson Reuters Clear ought to be abolished or curbed indeed. I hate to bring trans politics into this. I'm sure that's the last thing anybody wants to hear about right now. However we are a class of people whose sexuality can be unfairly identified by these databases.

Is the issue 'just' that they misgender trans people? That alone is already shitty of course. Or is the issue also that it makes later 'verification' by these agencies more difficult if the recorded gender does not match the apparent gender of the person?

The issue is that they have a field for prior names/AKA/aliases, and it's typically immutable. You can watch a person's face change as they read the report.

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Post by notimetorelax »

BeefySwain wrote: post #182
lumost wrote: post #145

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you know, I spoke with a company not too long ago and they gave me an offer that was 30% lower than what I currently make. The gap was entirely due to not accounting for public company RSU grants (that I had already mentioned) In hindsight I wouldn't be surprised if their department used this tool to check my current cash income and automatically generated an offer. I wouldn't trust this data for much, and I can almo…

The report tells you in the last 24 months who has looked at this info, so you could check that.

OMG, those companies… They should monetize tracking the tracker. And then they can monetize that.
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