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Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by sho »

allendoerfer wrote: post #163
sho wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Around the time I signed up for this site, I thought the same as you. 10 years and a couple of successful startups later - perspectives change. I don't know if I'd actually unironically call myself "elite" but we need some name, right? The fact is there's a large number of very, very capable people out there who probably don't need to work for anyone else again if they don't want to. But they get jobs anyway because…

Do you think the people you are describing do not realize themselves that they do not need to work? You claim to be part of them, did you need that essay to realize it? You just stated you created a couple of startups during the last 10 years, so you seem to have already quit your job a long time ago.

> You claim to be part of them, did you need that essay to realize it?

I'm not really claiming anything beyond saying that I believe there's quite a few successful people working in jobs they don't really need to be doing and i think the point of this essay is to encourage them to maybe have the confidence to do something on their own.

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by ycombinete »

JimboOmega wrote: post #185
themacguffinman wrote: post #175

"If you lose everything you own, you generally still have your network and skills" I get the general call to action that those who have excess resources should leverage that to take big risks, but this really undersells the possible consequences of losing everything you own. No, you don't always keep your network and skills. Sometimes, you lose everything. You lose friends from fallout or you belatedly realize that y…

It smells like privilege. That isn't to say that the OP was protected regardless. But the mindset that lets you do this is a mindset that comes from a background of abundance. Where you can always get another job if you want one, where you always have friends or parents who will bail you out or give you what you need. A background where things just always seem to work out.

Don’t know about privilege, but it certainly smells like “doesn’t have children”

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by sho »

sho wrote: post #251
allendoerfer wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think the people you are describing do not realize themselves that they do not need to work? You claim to be part of them, did you need that essay to realize it? You just stated you created a couple of startups during the last 10 years, so you seem to have already quit your job a long time ago.

> You claim to be part of them, did you need that essay to realize it? I'm not really claiming anything beyond saying that I believe there's quite a few successful people working in jobs they don't really need to be doing and i think the point of this essay is to encourage them to maybe have the confidence to do something on their own.

The man of action serenely regards ruin as the most likely possible outcome, mitigates it where he can, and leaps anyway.

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by SirHound »

tonyj wrote: post #229
jonstewart wrote: post #204

The author is Wolf Tivy, a cofounder of Palladium Magazine. Palladium Magazine is funded by Peter Thiel. The other cofounder of Palladium is Jonah Bennett; he now works at a stealth web3 startup and he says on his website he’s a political moderate. However, he also used to work at Tucker Carlson’s Daily Caller and pal around with white nationalists and neoreactionaries. He resigned from Palladium after those ties and…

That's interesting context, but does that meaningfully change the message of this article?

Is there a problem with interesting context?

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by chousuke »

thelettere wrote: post #237
JimboOmega wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It smells like privilege. That isn't to say that the OP was protected regardless. But the mindset that lets you do this is a mindset that comes from a background of abundance. Where you can always get another job if you want one, where you always have friends or parents who will bail you out or give you what you need. A background where things just always seem to work out.

The idea that only the rich are able to take risks - or even think about it - is a bias, and an ugly one at that. It doesn't match history - the only reason we have many good things is because poor people took major risks - and it's part of the tyranny of low expectations that is seeping deeper every day into the fabric of our culture. It's a remarkably effective way of keeping the pours in their place in the name of…

It's not that the ability to take risks is fundamentally different, it's just that if you're rich, the consequences of failure will be easier to deal with, allowing more risk-taking and thus more chances at success.

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by MarcellusDrum »

40four wrote: post #235

I don’t know if the OP is the author of this article or not, but all I have to say I want to buy into the overall concept/ thesis. But the writing is so erratic and turbulent, it is really hard to follow the author’s train of thought. It feels like they are trying SO hard to come across as deep and intellectual, that they lost sight of how it comes across to the reader. It’s like they are trying to force as many ‘big…

This article left a bad taste in my mouth as well. Just an article full of humblebrag, and giving advice that only work because the writer was lucky enough to have friends/family that accepted him being an unemployed leach.

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by [deleted] »

bawolff wrote: post #210
JimboOmega wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It smells like privilege. That isn't to say that the OP was protected regardless. But the mindset that lets you do this is a mindset that comes from a background of abundance. Where you can always get another job if you want one, where you always have friends or parents who will bail you out or give you what you need. A background where things just always seem to work out.

I mean maybe, but hn has a primary tech audience. I bet 70% of us here could quit our job, take some risks,go bankrupt, get a new job, all with only mild consequences. Yes that's privilege and it doesn't apply to everyone but its not an obscure level of privilege. You don't need to be a multimillionaire to have it.

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Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by MandieD »

tonyj wrote: post #229
jonstewart wrote: post #204

The author is Wolf Tivy, a cofounder of Palladium Magazine. Palladium Magazine is funded by Peter Thiel. The other cofounder of Palladium is Jonah Bennett; he now works at a stealth web3 startup and he says on his website he’s a political moderate. However, he also used to work at Tucker Carlson’s Daily Caller and pal around with white nationalists and neoreactionaries. He resigned from Palladium after those ties and…

That's interesting context, but does that meaningfully change the message of this article?

It's a bit easier to boldly follow one's philosophical dreams when said dreams line up nicely with what a billionaire is interested in funding.

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by chinathrow »

deepakkarki wrote: post #228
jonstewart wrote: post #204

The author is Wolf Tivy, a cofounder of Palladium Magazine. Palladium Magazine is funded by Peter Thiel. The other cofounder of Palladium is Jonah Bennett; he now works at a stealth web3 startup and he says on his website he’s a political moderate. However, he also used to work at Tucker Carlson’s Daily Caller and pal around with white nationalists and neoreactionaries. He resigned from Palladium after those ties and…

How is this relevant to the article?

Oh this is absolutely relevant as I was thinking on how that magazine/author can make a living from it. Now it makes absolute sense: it doesn't have to.

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by srcreigh »

someguydave wrote: post #224
bawolff wrote: post #208

I was nodding along until i reached: >Yes, even the bane of Darwin’s faith—the humble ichneumon wasp that lays its maggots inside the living bodies of caterpillars to eat them from the inside and burst out on maturity like some alien xenomorph—is a beautiful creature with a sacred task. Like many parasites, its role in the great chain of being is to test the health and defenses of its caterpillar host population. Its…

No, he is offering an idea to square a good and loving God with the horrors we see in life. This is known as a theodicy.

Yep. We could see the exploding callerpillars as being each one of our own unworthy pursuits. They blow up and we do better stuff instead.
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