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Post by TulliusCicero »

albatrosstrophy wrote: post #364
TulliusCicero wrote: post #134

> Keen also claimed that he’d won several online gaming competitions using the CharaChorder, which he says brings up an interesting ethical dilemma. “I’m not sure if there’s any restrictions on what keyboards you’re allowed to use,” he said over a video of him playing Super Smash Bros. Ultimate on the Nintendo Switch, using his CharaChorder running through a XIM-style adapter. As someone who's somewhat familiar with…

Tetris. There's some discussion on HN a while back on different ways of tapping the controller to make quicker turns. It will be interesting to seenwhat CharaChorder can do.

That was just for on the NES version using the standard controller there IIRC.

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Post by bardan »

usrbinbash wrote: post #89

>You may soon see that coworker with the weird monolith style trackball mouse rocking this strange peripheral and claiming he’s upped his efficiency in ways you can’t possibly imagine. Since coding is 20% sitting in meetings, 50% reading code, 10% drawing on whiteboards or sticky notes, 15% drinking coffee, 4.5% fighting impostor syndrome and 0.5% actual typing, I think I am quite safe with my good 'ol QWERTY.

The act of coding itself is also not a constant flow of characters from fingers to screen. You stop to take a moment, go back, correct something, next line, pause to think, type out a line etc. I have never used a device like this but I'm pretty sure I type at roughly the speed I think, at least when I'm writing programs. General note taking, eg. jotting down ideas, might be different, where I do find myself thinking faster than I type.

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Post by mgerb »

jeofken wrote: post #335
aaronscott wrote: post #77

I looked into buying one a few weeks ago but ultimately decided not to move forward. One reason was that it comes with a pre-configured list of 500 chords, so it's up to users to create their own beyond the initial list. The other was that the build quality doesn't appear to be that great (with the PCB board clearly visible). The reddit community[0] has some helpful reviews and progress updates. And their discord ser…

FYI links to reddit do not work if user is not logged in - at least on mobile. Sad to see its decline.

On mobile replace the “www” with “i” to get something that actually works on a phone. The new mobile site is such horrible user experience in almost every way.

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

0kl wrote: post #378
yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #376

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I am always surprised, though at this point I shouldn’t be, that there is always pushback against any attempts at improving the status quo when it comes to typing speeds on HN - as though the creator is attacking all of us with lower typing speeds personally… I don't think it's a general attack because people are personally offended; most of the criticism right now seems to be that the headline claim is materially…

I agree with you here entirely. I don’t really see how this is transformative compared to any chorded typing system. The specific op I was replying to was saying > …and 0.5% actual typing, I think I am quite safe with my good 'ol QWERTY. And there were a host of similar comments initially. 100% on fighting snake oil. 0% on pushing back against people trying new things that might improve the status quo

Ah yeah, that's fair. I could defend that as cost/benefit analysis, but I'm with you - let's push the limits and worry about utility evaluation later! (I literally have a chording keyboard on my desk right now, so I'm quite serious when I say I want to push the limits:])

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Post by a9h74j »

NikolaNovak wrote: post #69
tambourine_man wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

QWERTY has a steep learning curve as well, it’s just that it’s so ubiquitous that most people don’t question or remember the work that was put into.

Mmmhm not sure I'd agree. Initial learning curve is practically non-existent - Anybody can type a letter "A" or a word or a sentence on a QWERTY by looking and poking. It is not my understanding that I could do ANYthing on a stenography device without significant, serious training.

So-called discoverability is certainly one important metric.

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Post by tjoff »

minusSeven wrote: post #397
ok123456 wrote: post #390

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What if you're debugging SMTP and you actually meant HELO?

Outlook, word and I think even google keyboard does the same thing. You have to basically type it again in them and they take it to mean you don't want it autocorrected.

It is the first thing you disable though.

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Post by wanderer2323 »

usrbinbash wrote: post #89

>You may soon see that coworker with the weird monolith style trackball mouse rocking this strange peripheral and claiming he’s upped his efficiency in ways you can’t possibly imagine. Since coding is 20% sitting in meetings, 50% reading code, 10% drawing on whiteboards or sticky notes, 15% drinking coffee, 4.5% fighting impostor syndrome and 0.5% actual typing, I think I am quite safe with my good 'ol QWERTY.

Holy wow, you’re missing a lot of quality design doc time in this breakdown

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Post by hintymad »

Donald Knuth used to mentioned that he went to secretary school to learn typing more than 80 WPM. Then he found that he couldn't think as fast, so he resorted to writing with a pen and then typing out what he wrote. In work, I find that people who type smoothly and flawlessly often need to think fast. I don't break my stroke of typing a long command line because I can't type fast but because I have to pause to think what I need to type next.

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Post by a9h74j »

bagels wrote: post #337
Aperocky wrote: post #207

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playing the devil's advocate, typing speed is important for these reasons: 1. It allows for minimal disruption to thinking process, close to 90% of the time even when coding is not actively typing, but when typing is subconscious and fast it removes the potential of where it interrupts the thinking process. 2. While this has no bearing on individual case (It would be Bayesian, some people consider that to be heretic)…

Very early in my career, there was someone on my team that did hunt and peck. It was painfully slow, and definitely impacted their productivity. It was honestly painful to collaborate with with them because of this.

> painful to collaborate

National Slow Talkers of America

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qvrh73BVraE

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