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The Best Science Fiction Books (According to Reddit)

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Re: The Best Science Fiction Books (According to Reddit)

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While an interesting thesis, and I would never claim Japan has completely failed to influence the US, none of your examples strike me as evidence of Japan -> US influence rather than either convergent evolution, or things that just flat out come from different sources. High stakes testing is a result of the bureaucracy; the bureaucracy requires something to test and measure, and it will create it even if it's impossi…

"either convergent evolution, or things that just flat out come from different sources" I more or less agree with this. At the same time, when you look at Japan everything just looks better -- even though it isn't. So while I think much of it is convergent evolution or things that come from different sources, just having Japan being the way it is vaguely over there seems to be giving US leaders more self confidence t…

Part of it also though is that Japan has a history of taking ideas from other cultures and then perfecting them.

As one example, a lot of the "japanese management techniques" stuff can trace its roots back to an American, W. Edwards Deming.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Edwards_Deming

Deming made a significant contribution to Japan's later reputation for innovative high-quality products and its economic power. He is regarded as having had more impact upon Japanese manufacturing and business than any other individual not of Japanese heritage. Despite being considered something of a hero in Japan, he was only just beginning to win widespread recognition in the U.S. at the time of his death.

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"Cyberpunk is largely an expression of fears about an Asian (Japanese more often than not) "takeover" of Western society. It's actually very xenophobic" This is a very weird statement to make, the architects of Cyberpunk (Gibson, Sterling etc.) are Japanophiles if anything, the opposite of Xenophobic. Do you have any evidence to back this statement up? Cyberpunk was just an extrapolation of the tech scene of the 80s,…

The zeitgeist of the 80s had a lot of concern about Japan becoming "number 1" - US manufacturing was falling behind and people thought that Japan was top of the world technologically. So while the authors are Japanophiles, they certainly tapped into the mood of the time - that the future was strange and asian-influenced.

I'm not sure it would be correct to use the word "xenophobia" here; but for those of us old enough to remember the 80's, what redcap says is very spot-on. There was a LOT of buzz in the 80's about how Japan (and Asian countries in general, to some extent) were kicking the US's arse in a lot of areas: computers, consumer electronics, cars, etc., etc. Talk about "competing with Japan" was used a motivational material to encourage students ("study hard or you won't have a job when you graduate, because you're competing against the Japanese"), and to justify various research programs, government initiatives, etc.

The whole "Fifth Generation Computing" thing really lit a fire under a lot of people back in those days: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_generation_computer

So yeah... I don't necessarily agree that Cyberpunk as a genre is really focused on anti-asian xenophobia of any sort, but I don't think it's a stretch to say that that "80's zeitgeist" thing did influence Cyberpunk.

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Agree, though the only non English science fiction book I've read (translated to English of-course) is Roadside Picnic, which probably would be in my list of the best Sci-Fi books of all time.

Also, don't miss the movie adaptation of Roadside Picnic by Andrei Tarkovsky: "Stalker".

Stalker is perhaps the best movie of all time.

Re: The Best Science Fiction Books (According to Reddit)

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An aside that may be of interest:

From the linked page: "Ever wonder where the term 'Avatar' came from?"

Still amazes me that people think the word Avatar arose out of recent technical advances.

One educated in a perspective beyond just the Western should know that its an ancient Sanskrit word.

More information: * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar * http://www.boingboing.net/2010/03/17/bet-you-didnt-know-a.ht...

By the way, both references use the word 'descent', and Wikipedia quotes two western sources claim that 'descent' is more correct than 'incarnation'. I checked with at least two Indian contacts that claim the opposite. [Its a Hindi word also; for those that don't know, Hindi is a derivative language from Sanskrit (just as many Western European languages are derived from Latin).]

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While I thought Alastair Reynold's Revelation Space was just ok, I really loved his standalone book Chasm City . I picked it up randomly at a book exchange and was blown away. The universe is fiercely imaginative and colorful, the dialog is snappy, the characters are flawed and interesting, the science is just hard enough to be vaguely plausible, but on the whole there's enough silliness for the book to not take itse…

I enjoyed Chasm City more than the Revelation Space trilogy as well. I suppose plausibility is in the eye of the reader.

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IMHO Jack Vance should be in the list, be it the Tschai series or some other. Really loved it.

Jack Vance, the forgotten grand master. I love his stuff as well. My choice would be the Cadwal Chronicles trilogy. The problem may be that his signature work, the Dying Earth stories, are generally categorized as fantasy rather than SF.

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I see many comments in support of favorite authors here. I'm gratified to see several for personal favorite CJ Cherryh & 1 for another personal favorite, Jack Vance. So in the interest of variety, I'll state this - Hamilton's Pandora's Star doesn't belong on this list. Read it, enjoyed it, but it's just not all that.

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I'm sorry not to see Accelerando by Charles Stross (cstross on HN) on the list. One of the best singularity stories I have read, if not the best. For those of you interested, it's available as a free ebook here: http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/fiction/accelera...

My problem with Stross is that while he has some absolutely fantastic ideas and world-building, his stories fall short of keeping me interested or entertained. It's like there's so much stuff crammed in that the story part just falls out of the equation. MINOR SPOILERS for Accelerando I thought Accelerando was great up to the part where it stopped making any sense (about the time they were fighting some alien invader…

His newer books (Jennifer Morgue etc) are better stories; with some of the hell of modern office work.

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I'm a fan of Greg Egan (which is on there). Quarantine and Permutation City are really great books. Schildt's Ladder was good but a bit too hard for me to grok.

Don't miss his short stories, like luminous and dark integers. Egan rekindled my excitement for SF recently, great stuff!

yeah, his short stories are mind blowing. I really liked Distress, too.
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