NOTE: It is possible to freeze access to your employment data here: https://employees.theworknumber.com/employee-data-freeze That being said, it doesn't stop employers from continuing to hand Equifax your data on a gold platter, and therefore does nothing to protect you from the inevitable data breach that will result in Equifax being required to give everyone affected $0.36 or one year of free credit monitoring.
Hijacking here to say, literally all you need to get access to someones employment + salary history is their SSN and birthdate. edit: and a past employer that used this system Birthdays are extremely easy to get (public record), and I seem to recall a specific large organization leaking a bunch of SSN's not too long ago.......
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#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
If all employees share their salary information with each other, it becomes a headache for the employer. Each employee may quote the other person's salary demanding a raise. This is the reason behind the "keep your data confidential" idea.
Rare to hear such a direct, strong argument for a union on HN.
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#163Earlier quoted context omitted.
I worked in a two person company last year where I ran payroll with ADP. It's there for me too, and I don't recall opt in permission on this.
Three-person company here. We do our own payroll, using Quickbooks (not their payroll processing service, just Quickbooks the desktop application). We have employees in two states.
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#164The previous addresses thing makes me feel like this will get taken down very soon. Everyone knows that abusers and stalkers can make very dangerous use out of addresses. It's only going to take one terrible incident before this gets investigated by the government.
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#165Very interesting, I didn't expect the accuracy and detail in this data. All of my pay from Intel, Google, Facebook is in here. Qualcomm apparently did not report. Also, Google (my latest employer) pulled the data just before I started working, after giving me an offer. My credit card company pulls the data every month, sometimes 2-3 times per month. Several mortgage originators have also pulled the data even though I…
Does the system not ask for SSN to pull this data? If yes, how did Google get your SSN? Disc: Googler.
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#167Yes, it's concerning, but let's be realistic about this. I'm surprised HN readers are so surprised by this! On a scale of Room 641A ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A ) to carriers divulging location when you enter somebody's phone number ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17081684 ), I'd say this is 2/10 bad. This really has nothing to do with employers colluding and trying to keep salaries low. Instead,…
Not really.
> If you're applying for a mortgage, how do you expect them to verify your salary? You can submit paystubs, but those can be faked. Same with bank statements.
Faking paystubs and bank statements is called "fraud" and most people are pretty reluctant to commit it.
> And if a bank calls your employer to verify your salary, and they have your DoB, SSN, and home address, it's pretty likely your employer is going to tell them anyways.
I find that hard to believe. The person who answers the phones for payroll would be worried about disclosing too much and getting fired, and legal constantly tells managers to keep their mouths shut to avoid saying something that could get them sued