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Re: Quit Your Job

#171

I thought this fairy tale died with Peter thiels quit college for $100k disaster.

Some disaster

> Although it is still unclear how many Thiel Fellows were actually successful, "Mr. Thiel says companies started by the fellows have raised $73 million, a record that he says has attracted additional applicants. He says fellows “learned far more than they would have in college.”

Source: Wakabayashi, D. (June, 2015). College Dropouts Thrive in Tech. The Wall Street Journal@College Dropouts Thrive in Tech

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> Notable recipients include the following people (year they were awarded the fellowship is indicated in parentheses):[20]

> Laura Deming (2011) – founder and partner at Longevity Fund Paul Gu (2011) – co-founder and head of product at Upstart[21] James Proud (2011) – founder of Hello, which made Sense, a sleep tracking device[22][23] Dale J. Stephens (2011) – founder of Year On, formerly UnCollege, a gap year program with training in work skills and life skills[24] Dylan Field (2012) – co-founder and CEO of Figma[25] Taylor Wilson (2012) – the second youngest person to produce nuclear fusion[26] Ritesh Agarwal (2013) – founder & CEO of OYO Rooms Austin Russell (2013) – founder and CEO of Luminar Technologies and the world's youngest self-made billionaire as of 2021[27] Vitalik Buterin (2014) – co-creator of Ethereum[28] Simon Tian (2015) – creator of the Neptune Pine, a crowd-funded smartwatch Cathy Tie (2015) – founder of Ranomics and Partner at Cervin Ventures[29] Boyan Slat (2016) – founder and CEO of The Ocean Cleanup[30] Robert Habermeier (2018) – co-creator of Polkadot[31][32] Erin Smith (2019) – creator of software to detect Parkinson's Disease

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiel_Fellowship#Notable_recip...

Re: Quit Your Job

#172

Hahahaa, gotta grant it to the author, he has the rare talent to induce in me uncontrollable laughs with every single paragraph. The other "author" who comes to my mind now with that exquisite skill is Eliezer Yudkowsky, hell, I would pay some amount of money to watch a conversation between that pair. Not even 20 seasons of South Park would be that hilarious.

Please don't post personal attacks or call names in HN comments. It's not what we want here.

Maybe you don't feel you owe the "author" better, but you owe this community better if you're participating in it.

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If we're going to talk about polarization, it behooves us to bring up that this isn't a either-or topic: you could take risks and succeed, avoid risks and stagnate, but also take risks and fail as well as avoid risks and succeed. If we're really going meta, it might also be appropriate to think about our tendency to attribute causation to simple inputs (i.e. either X or Y), when in reality, there may have been a mix…

> as well as avoid risks and succeed. that's just pure luck, and i think a lot of people would imagine this is called "undeserved success".

"Pure luck" is the source of almost every success story. The embellishments and particular details are often told quite well to cloud this.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If we're going to talk about polarization, it behooves us to bring up that this isn't a either-or topic: you could take risks and succeed, avoid risks and stagnate, but also take risks and fail as well as avoid risks and succeed. If we're really going meta, it might also be appropriate to think about our tendency to attribute causation to simple inputs (i.e. either X or Y), when in reality, there may have been a mix…

> as well as avoid risks and succeed. that's just pure luck, and i think a lot of people would imagine this is called "undeserved success".

Just doing your well-paid job until a comfy retirement, taking regular vacations throughout the years and overall just having a normal boring happy life also falls under this umbrella.

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"If you lose everything you own, you generally still have your network and skills"

I get the general call to action that those who have excess resources should leverage that to take big risks, but this really undersells the possible consequences of losing everything you own. No, you don't always keep your network and skills. Sometimes, you lose everything. You lose friends from fallout or you belatedly realize that your network isn't as resilient to you becoming a penniless loser as you thought. Sometimes you go into debt and make enemies. Sometimes you become homeless and then develop a mental illness or a drug addiction. Sometimes you skip the homeless part and just commit suicide [1]. How many people can stomach that kind of outcome?

I do like the general message which I think should be said more often but I feel like people who charge ahead on this call to action should also triple check that they can truly accept the actual risk they might incur. I also think the amount of risk you take has diminishing returns. Making "fatal leaps of faith" doesn't seem to be as necessary or pragmatic as it's presented here.

[1] (heads up: this is a link to a suicide note) https://archive.fo/QaLIw

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#176

I found myself wishing for hip waders to even try to get through part of this self-congratulatory pile of BS. Reading between the lines told me he quit his job, mooched off of friends and girlfriend/wife, then managed to con people into investing in a magazine. I figure he had a trust fund somewhere, or has the gift of gab and could easily part fools from their cash.

Please make your substantive points without name-calling or personal attacks.

If you don't have a substantive point to make about this article, there are plenty of other interesting ones on the site.

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#177

The "virtues" of poverty? Poverty is hell for people who can't choose it. What a cruel statement.

That's your opinion. The author apparently has a different one.

I would point out that in Western society there have been groups such as religious orders dedicated to the "virtue of poverty" for at least 8 centuries[0] so this is not exactly a new idea.

I'm sure that back then, the ideas probably elicited at least one similar reaction from someone in the equivalent of your position. But enough other people found those ideas sufficiently inspiring that the group has persisted since 1208. It seems unreasonable to call "cruel" something that has given meaning to so many people.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_of_Assisi#Founding_of_...

Re: Quit Your Job

#178

The "virtues" of poverty? Poverty is hell for people who can't choose it. What a cruel statement.

He thinks poverty is not buying a Tesla. Lets see him thrive in an environment where dinner is sleep.

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#179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's what I was thinking. Obviously I don't know the situation of this guy but from my experience a lot of people who preach this stuff (or minimalism) either have already made a lot of money or have parents who can support them when things don't work out. It's much harder to jump into the unknown if you know nobody will catch you.

I've mostly done this....I get bread/butter from freelance, I have ADHD which gives me some major motivation issues already but depression/anxiety/uncertainty and maybe just burnout have led me to go very slow w/ work. I have one client who I absolutely love cause she's not pushy, she's a developer too, and I'm only a cog in their freelance outsourcing - a good one cause she seems to appreciate my work, but I'm not t…

I love this idea, it's fantastic! ADHD unite!

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Please do not cross into personal attack. We don't want this kind of thing here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Dang, look at the context. I was simply repeating his self-assessment back at him, and trying to flip it with a positive message that one's circumstances of birth do not define one's potential - unless you let it (mental prison). I feel like you've taken the exact opposite reading from what was intended.

That said, when people don't understand what you're trying to say, the fault lies with you. I'll try to rethink how i can phrase this kind of thing. I was trying to challenge in a positive way but it obviously didn't come across like that.

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