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Re: Tell HN: Salary data is for sale

#61
It's a bit of a side tangent but we seriously need to level the playing field when it comes to compensation. levels.fyi has done a lot for tech but there are tons of fields out there that don't have a hope. Someone needs to build a Glassdoor with a monetization model that isn't dependent on the self-same companies paying to advertise or hide reviews, etc.

I recently got started on something for accountants[0] (fun for me because I got to leverage NocoDB[1]), and I'm considering putting together something for everyone (i.e. every industry -- from gardeners to lawyers). Everyone needs to have a levels.fyi or an uncompromised Glassdoor and I can't find one so far. Even just something like camelcamelcamel for similar positions at the same company would be interesting.

[0]: https://nomorepizzaparties.com/

[1]: https://nocodb.com

Re: Tell HN: Salary data is for sale

#63
That last link says that data is exempt from CCPA.

> The Work Number® database is subject to the Fair Credit Reporting Act (FCRA)

> Data that is regulated by the FCRA, as well as data used for employment purposes, is exempt from the CCPA.

Re: Tell HN: Salary data is for sale

#64

How does this work in California given that employers cannot ask for a candidate's salary even through an agent? Does this not qualify? Effective January 1, 2018, Labor Code section 432.3 prohibits an employer from, either orally or in writing, personally or through an agent, asking any information concerning an applicant’s salary history information, which includes compensation as well as benefits. [1] [1] https://w…

It appears to be even more restrictive then that: https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySectio...

> An employer shall not rely on the salary history information of an applicant for employment as a factor in determining whether to offer employment to an applicant or what salary to offer an applicant.

That being said, how do you enforce a provision like that in the face of every company having all information on every candidate, seeing that mind reading hasn't been invented yet.

Re: Tell HN: Salary data is for sale

#65

If this is correct, then it would be risky for someone to lie to a new employer about their former salary in order to receive an offer for a higher pay, because the new employer could use this service to cross check the employee's claims.

Wouldn't this just lead to lower offers all around?

That's precisely the value proposition for employers.

Re: Tell HN: Salary data is for sale

#66
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They already have that info. In fact, they already hired a music major CISO who leaked all that data in a stunning display of executive incompetence.

When?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Equifax_data_breach

Re: Tell HN: Salary data is for sale

#69
For those curious, I requested my Employment Data Report. Here's what was in it:

Pages 1-2:

  Dear xxx,
  
  Thank you for requesting your Employment Data Report. Your Employment Data Report
  includes all employment data sent to The Work Number by your employer(s). An
  important document titled "A Summary of Your Rights Under the Fair Credit Reporting
  Act" is also enclosed. Great care has been taken to report this information correctly.
  Please help us in achieving even greater accuracy by reviewing all of the enclosed
  material carefully.
  
  Verifiers who have procured your data in the past 24 months -
  [list of organizations, including Credit Karma, JPMorgan Chase, American Express, ...]
  
  The information provided in this document is an unofficial report, intended for personal
  use by the employee-recipient only. It is not intended for verification purposes. Using this
  document for consumer verification purposes could constitute a violation of the
  Fair Credit Reporting Act and result in a monetary fine. If someone is asking you to
  provide verification of employment or income, please direct them to www.theworknumber.com.
  If you need further assistance or wish to dispute any information in your Employment Data
  Report, please contac -- page errors -- Please reference case number xxxxx.
  
  If you wish, you may also contact your employer(s) at the address indicated in each employment
  record below.
  
  Sincerely,
  The Work Number Service Team
  Attachment
  MM, MS

Pages 3-17:

  [pages and pages of complete up-to-date (2021 EOY) salary information,
  bonus breakdowns, title, employment status, division, state-specific
  disclaimers, and freeze instructions]

Snippet about freezing:

  A security freeze request may be sent via mail to:
  
  Equifax Workforce Solutions
  Attn: Employment Data Freeze
  3470 Rider Trail South
  Earth City, MO 63045
  
  You may also send a freeze request to:
  
  Email: TWNFreeze@equifax.com
  Phone: 1-866-222-5880
  Fax: 877-879-8182
  We will provide you with confirmation of the placement of your freeze.
  Please note that although some state laws may allow us to charge a fee,
  TALX Corporation never charges any fees to place or remove a security freeze.
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