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Keyboard lets people type so fast it’s banned from typing competitions
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Re: Keyboard lets people type so fast it’s banned from typing competitions
#352The "500 WPM" video is a little suspect. He types literally one memorized sentence and extrapolates a WPM from that one 10 word sentence. I'd like to see him actually type 500 meaningful words in under 60 seconds. Anyway, this is cool but basically just a modern stenography device. Steno has a learning curve problem that makes it so most people won't use it.
Does it matter? The article is talking about typing competition. The WPM is in this context. There's lots of competitions which seem to have no real world practical value other than people believing it's enough to put together a competition for it.
I have never participated in a typing competition but I would be shocked if they consisted of typing a single canned sentence.
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#353Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've been active in my typing practice since I was about 4, and once I'm warmed up I can usually hit high 120s with 100% accuracy on unseen MonkeyType using a qwerty keyboard with red Cherry switches. If I ignore accuracy and go for 'raw' speed, I am able to achieve significantly faster WPM, typically between the range of 140s-180s. The issue I run into with programs like these is that I have to read/match the expect…
> when I write for fun, and know what I want to say ahead of time, I'm fairly certain I'm able to burst into the low 200s (don't have a solid way to test to be sure unfortunately). What do you estimate your actual WPM to have been when you wrote your whole comment? I find that it can take time to think about what I need to put down, and often need to edit and re-phrase for my audience. The whole WPM thing focuses on…
I love that this thread popped up when it did, as part of a new years resolutions of sorts I decided to start writing short stories and have been thinking about this topic quite a lot. For me it depends, when I know exactly what I need to say, it's pretty quick 70-80 WPM or so, that's with the pauses, edits, etc.. If am really struggling to come up with the words, it's probably closer to 10 or 20. One of the perks of being able to burst type though, and I don't really have a better term for it, I'm able to just kinda tense my muscles and 'jiggle' my fingers in fast succession, is that I can backspace and move the cursor _very_ quickly on the edits. Typing is a means to an end though, the hardest part of writing is ensuring the communication fits the bill. If the bug is tricky, for example, my words per minute can turn into words per day :)
Being a programmer probably allows me to be faster than a lot of other speed typers for specific tasks, but I'm nowhere near as fast as they tend to be for straight word counts where the numbers tend to look like 100% accuracy at 200+ WPM. As an example, I always set my text editors to backspace both words, and sentences (ctrl+backspace, and shift+backspace). This trick, jiggling, and good searching, allows me to move through code _much_ faster than most other programmers I've meet. The only exceptions have been people who've setup and mastered vim, (sorry emacs folks, I've just never encountered any of you in the wild) and I've been slowly been working on gaining proficiency there.
Another user pointed out that there is a zen mode for monkeyType, I'm trying it out on this post. I just sat down to write for the night and I'm using this as my warmup (going this fast requires it for me). I knew a good bit of what I've wanted to say as I started this post but there have been some pauses and edits.
MonkeyType claimed 72 for this comment, bit faster than I would have guessed, I'm curious as to how realistic that number really is!
Re: Keyboard lets people type so fast it’s banned from typing competitions
#354Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've been active in my typing practice since I was about 4, and once I'm warmed up I can usually hit high 120s with 100% accuracy on unseen MonkeyType using a qwerty keyboard with red Cherry switches. If I ignore accuracy and go for 'raw' speed, I am able to achieve significantly faster WPM, typically between the range of 140s-180s. The issue I run into with programs like these is that I have to read/match the expect…
Monkeytype also has a 'zen' mode where it measures the speed of you typing whatever you want.
Thanks for the heads-up, I just tried it out, somehow never noticed it before!
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#355"he did win another typing competition using the CharaChorder to hit 267 WPM with 76% accuracy." 76% accuracy doesn't sound so great to me, no matter how fast I can type on it.
It's not 76% accuracy of the final text--it's 100% accurate, it's just that the way you get there using the CharaChorder is recognized by Monkeytype as inaccurate.
If I type the word "hello" on my CharaChorder, I type the keys `helo` which Monkeytype will recognize as an inaccuracy. The CC's internal firmware then recognizes I typed helo and wanted hello and will backspace the word and replace it, much as if you did the same thing.
Do this on enough words where the chord trigger doesn't line up with the chord and you get the ~75% number.
But the final text is 100% accurate
Re: Keyboard lets people type so fast it’s banned from typing competitions
#356Earlier quoted context omitted.
“CharaChorder’s internal processor arranges the letters on-screen in real time faster than the human eye can perceive.” So, 76% may also be an artifact due to the way the keyboard interprets inputs rather than something a user would need to correct.
I own a CharaChorder and this is exactly right. Using the CC, you can't get 100% on monkeytype because when I type `helo` it then backspaces that and types `hello` using the CharaChorder's onboard firmware. The final text is 100% accurate--it's just what was typed by the keyboard wasn't 100% accurate.
So is it autocorrecting helo to hello?
Predictive tweaks aren't good in a keyboard, you want everything to be intentional, or you'll lose time and patience correcting things. Spellcheck should be post hoc imho.
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#357Earlier quoted context omitted.
Japanese input’s core part is less the direct input and more the conversion to the target character (which relies on the IME, so we’re not far from the “chorded” mechanism of this keyboard) For instance there is a “kana” mode that let’s you direct input each kana with one keystroke only, which is way faster than romaji input, but is ignored by 99% of the population because the ROI on learning it is extremely low as y…
Is Kana input really that much faster than Romaji? I've almost never seen it used (presumably because you have to learn romaji input to type in English anyway, so why learn a second input method), so can't speak to its speed. However, is it possible that ten-key style input could actually be faster than Kana input? After all, direct Kana input in Japanese is kind of equivalent to Roman input in English in the sense o…
I've never seen it used IRL as well.
People tout a 30% speed increase over romaji: https://persol-tech-s.co.jp/i-engineer/technology/key-kana
> this keyboard claims to be faster than direct input due to not needing to move your fingers around
That would perhaps work if you remapped the movement to not be linked to romaji, but direct kana mappings. Then it's not just 26 keys combination for the alphabet alone, but 46+ more arrangement, and more for ° and ". With 10 fingers it feels like hell just for standard text input (to note, you can only use 9 for combination as you need a transformation key, and I guess you also need backspace and arrow keys ?), and you add to that punctuation etc.
I'm not sure there can be an actual human being effectively typing faster with this...
Re: Keyboard lets people type so fast it’s banned from typing competitions
#358Earlier quoted context omitted.
A steep learning curve can also mean you make very little progress for a long time until suddenly being proficient.
you can plot things any way you wish, but the people who invented and named learning curves plotted them so that "a lot of learning" was steep.
I understand how they plotted them, I followed your link. My point was that a sigmoidal learning curve can be both steep and require much time to reach proficiency.
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#359>You may soon see that coworker with the weird monolith style trackball mouse rocking this strange peripheral and claiming he’s upped his efficiency in ways you can’t possibly imagine. Since coding is 20% sitting in meetings, 50% reading code, 10% drawing on whiteboards or sticky notes, 15% drinking coffee, 4.5% fighting impostor syndrome and 0.5% actual typing, I think I am quite safe with my good 'ol QWERTY.
I'm having difficulties finding the source right now, but I remember reading a story about a sysadmin that was berated for his typing speed and the story ended with him replying "I don't get paid to type code fast, I get paid to press enter very, very slowly."
Very true for sysadmin. I can type pretty quick, but I developed a habit that when doing risky things I do a "air enter" -- I tap above the enter key, stop and think "am I sure?", before actually pressing enter. It's served me well.
Re: Keyboard lets people type so fast it’s banned from typing competitions
#360I looked into buying one a few weeks ago but ultimately decided not to move forward. One reason was that it comes with a pre-configured list of 500 chords, so it's up to users to create their own beyond the initial list. The other was that the build quality doesn't appear to be that great (with the PCB board clearly visible). The reddit community[0] has some helpful reviews and progress updates. And their discord ser…
FYI links to reddit do not work if user is not logged in - at least on mobile. Sad to see its decline.
old.reddit.com still works