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Re: Keyboard lets people type so fast it’s banned from typing competitions

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The "500 WPM" video is a little suspect. He types literally one memorized sentence and extrapolates a WPM from that one 10 word sentence. I'd like to see him actually type 500 meaningful words in under 60 seconds. Anyway, this is cool but basically just a modern stenography device. Steno has a learning curve problem that makes it so most people won't use it.

Isn’t just just obviously bs? You can’t even think 8.3 meaningful words per second. Try it. It’s impossible to sustain.

Re: Keyboard lets people type so fast it’s banned from typing competitions

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post #211

>You may soon see that coworker with the weird monolith style trackball mouse rocking this strange peripheral and claiming he’s upped his efficiency in ways you can’t possibly imagine. Since coding is 20% sitting in meetings, 50% reading code, 10% drawing on whiteboards or sticky notes, 15% drinking coffee, 4.5% fighting impostor syndrome and 0.5% actual typing, I think I am quite safe with my good 'ol QWERTY.

I think things like this are not “everyone must use this new better way of typing,” but more “hey there may be a better way of doing this task.” I am always surprised, though at this point I shouldn’t be, that there is always pushback against any attempts at improving the status quo when it comes to typing speeds on HN - as though the creator is attacking all of us with lower typing speeds personally… From another pe…

Medical transcriptionists once used a specialized keyboard to quickly describe spoken terminology. "Shorthand" has existed for a while and I imagine is a dying art at this point [1].

I think most cases where you needed actual really fast typing were covered long ago and the number of careers or situations where a person needed it have been declining for a long time.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shorthand

Re: Keyboard lets people type so fast it’s banned from typing competitions

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I looked into buying one a few weeks ago but ultimately decided not to move forward. One reason was that it comes with a pre-configured list of 500 chords, so it's up to users to create their own beyond the initial list. The other was that the build quality doesn't appear to be that great (with the PCB board clearly visible). The reddit community[0] has some helpful reviews and progress updates. And their discord ser…

FYI links to reddit do not work if user is not logged in - at least on mobile. Sad to see its decline.

Re: Keyboard lets people type so fast it’s banned from typing competitions

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>You may soon see that coworker with the weird monolith style trackball mouse rocking this strange peripheral and claiming he’s upped his efficiency in ways you can’t possibly imagine. Since coding is 20% sitting in meetings, 50% reading code, 10% drawing on whiteboards or sticky notes, 15% drinking coffee, 4.5% fighting impostor syndrome and 0.5% actual typing, I think I am quite safe with my good 'ol QWERTY.

An old very experienced co-worker once said, "code is written once but read a thousand times".

Most of the old wizards I worked with hunted and pecked, looking down constantly.

Re: Keyboard lets people type so fast it’s banned from typing competitions

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post #118

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I'm having difficulties finding the source right now, but I remember reading a story about a sysadmin that was berated for his typing speed and the story ended with him replying "I don't get paid to type code fast, I get paid to press enter very, very slowly."

playing the devil's advocate, typing speed is important for these reasons: 1. It allows for minimal disruption to thinking process, close to 90% of the time even when coding is not actively typing, but when typing is subconscious and fast it removes the potential of where it interrupts the thinking process. 2. While this has no bearing on individual case (It would be Bayesian, some people consider that to be heretic)…

Very early in my career, there was someone on my team that did hunt and peck. It was painfully slow, and definitely impacted their productivity. It was honestly painful to collaborate with with them because of this.

Re: Keyboard lets people type so fast it’s banned from typing competitions

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QWERTY has a steep learning curve as well, it’s just that it’s so ubiquitous that most people don’t question or remember the work that was put into.

A significant difference between a conventional keyboard and steno is that a conventional keyboard is capable of producing all the of the text we normally type, and a steno machine is not. A necessary part of stenotype is a combination of pre-work (dictionary development for e.g. proper names) and post-work (editing the steno transcript to produce a "real English" document instead of one that may only have the genera…

> In the end, steno itself is probably not a lot harder to learn than QWERTY (although I think more frustrating because the "hunt and peck" option for steno is less intuitive and often slower). But it requires sort of a "supporting ecosystem" of skills and tools that is more complex and not amenable to use cases other than natural language. That makes it much less attractive for general use.

100% agree, also it may be harder because in the US we still don't teach kids how to fucking read correctly. It's still common to have elementary school curricula that do not teach how letters are related to phonemes _at all_.

Re: Keyboard lets people type so fast it’s banned from typing competitions

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post #272

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The learning curve for stenography is much higher. With a keyboard, the buttons do exactly what they say and that only. With a stenography machine, every possible combination of buttons does a different thing. When typing the word "Unprepared" on a keyboard, you just have to look at the buttons and find each of the ones with those labels, and hit them in sequence. To type the word "Unprepared" on a steno machine, you…

Keyboards that use multiplexed row/column electrical matrix will not allow you to detect more than two keys in any box pattern simultaneously. So pressing more than two keys on that virtual steno keyboard is impossible on a regular keyboard (for many key combinations).

Any decent (gaming/enthusiast/high-end) keyboard uses dioded on every key to achieve N-key rollover (sometimes only 4KRO on the USB output due to sticking with boot protocol or whatever other reasons)

Re: Keyboard lets people type so fast it’s banned from typing competitions

#340
post #7

The "500 WPM" video is a little suspect. He types literally one memorized sentence and extrapolates a WPM from that one 10 word sentence. I'd like to see him actually type 500 meaningful words in under 60 seconds. Anyway, this is cool but basically just a modern stenography device. Steno has a learning curve problem that makes it so most people won't use it.

> Monkeytpe won’t let Keen run up the leaderboard, but he did win another typing competition using the CharaChorder to hit 267 WPM with 76% accuracy. IMHO, 76% accuracy is honestly low. If the person has to sacrifice so much accuracy to hit 267 I'm not sure it's worth it. For most typing, making a mistake actually interrupts your thought process. This speed is only achievable/useful when there are text on the screen…

I actively worked to remove my oh I typed that wrong reflex. Because I need to ready anything important again and I'll click the squiggles. Everything else dosent mattr enughf for me to kare. Or I use with Google voice dictation and just deal with the craziness.

Dictated not red

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