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Re: Quit Your Job

#21
post #5

I'm conflicted by this article. I'm sympathetic to it, but some things just really push past my BS meter. For example: >This is related to why man became stunted with the dawn of agriculture. We traded a life limited by the occasional violent struggle over bountiful surplus for a more predictable life limited by grinding labor after barely sufficient nutrition. Firstly, "man" or humanity did all of their greatest wor…

> Before agriculture, life wasn't bountiful. It was short and harsh

We all have a linear view of evolution: nomadism -> agriculture -> villages -> cities => for all the better. And we think life was really not fun before agriculture. Yet, some authors (especially in the recent years, with the progress of archeology) will note that things are maybe not so clear, and that's fascinating. With agriculture, man was (possibly) in a less good physical and spiritual shape (so, life would be harsher and shorter for peasants than for nomads). With agriculture and the concentration of people and animals, diseases spread, they ate a less diversified food, they had to fight periods of scarcity, they had a less diversified life, less rituals, things like that. We also know of tribes of nomads that joined in like summer, accumulated and shared big amounts of food, built monuments, and split again. Just to say maybe it wasn't scarcity all year long. Sources: Graeber, James C. Scott, Wengrow. Happy reading!

Re: Quit Your Job

#22
post #14
post #7

In 2022 who still uses the term "courting"? I feel like it's a term used by somebody from the Edwardian era who needs a refill on their moustache wax.

> In 2022 who still uses the term "courting"? This guy, apparently: "When I wasn’t lifting and courting, I was building a network of intellectuals interested in problems of governance from beyond the established liberal democratic paradigm." What a sentence. > "I feel like it's a term used by somebody from the Edwardian era who needs a refill on their moustache wax." I knew someone like this. The running joke was tha…

That sentence is truly, amazingly bad, and I very much doubt the image it evokes is the one the author had in mind when they wrote it.

Re: Quit Your Job

#23

I'm sure that's all awesome if you can afford to live without income, but what about everyone else?

That's what I was thinking. Obviously I don't know the situation of this guy but from my experience a lot of people who preach this stuff (or minimalism) either have already made a lot of money or have parents who can support them when things don't work out. It's much harder to jump into the unknown if you know nobody will catch you.

I've mostly done this....I get bread/butter from freelance, I have ADHD which gives me some major motivation issues already but depression/anxiety/uncertainty and maybe just burnout have led me to go very slow w/ work. I have one client who I absolutely love cause she's not pushy, she's a developer too, and I'm only a cog in their freelance outsourcing - a good one cause she seems to appreciate my work, but I'm not the only resource so basically I can work as much/little, and in 2021 it's been a rough year financially... I've had a lot of time to basically think about what I want to do....

I've come to the conclusion I want to build OS software for co-ops and repurpose as open core for non-co-ops. Think ERP systems that manage point pools for customers, affiliates, workers, etc that can be traded for voting power, and dividends from profits from a network of syndicated worker-owned co-ops....

Example: You work at a WO-pharmacy, and shop at WO-grocery store... you earn x points per hour worked, and x points per dollar spent (upto 10k/annual to prevent whales), perhaps there's a crypto token aspect too that maybe pays out some living dividend too... after you meet a yearly minimum say 500 hours worked, volunteered, or spent you are a 'member' and get full benefits (think like costco) which might include health insurance (eventual goal), equal share of revenue/gains that aren't earmarked for further growth and salaries--equal by point I mean, so each point is 1 share, and if there's 30k in there, and 30k shares and you own 1k shares you get 1k...but points could be syndicated meaning shared across related orgs through partnerships, or single to that co-op, etc... it depends on what they want to do, people still have autonomy. Essentially it's like more centralized DAO's that are networked and have more rules in place to ensure just ownership of more tokens (cash) doesn't give undue power.

Co-ops can set hierarchy choices like do managers/execs maybe get more points/weights based on tenure, level, or is it all equal across the board?

The ERP should have an easy product/inventory listing/tracking thing with federated marketplace... think shopify but products can be imported from other shopify customers into your store, and it feels a bit more like Amazon or Ebay, and you as the store owner might get an affiliate commission.... eventually we can build an fBA like solution so marketplace members can also charge really cheap shipping...to actually compete w/ amazon...

Mom and pops, restaurants, uber-drivers will all have tie-ins to the syndicates so basically small companies and co-ops all can thrive, and big corps can use some of our tools too (but they'll have to pay a premium)... monetization model will mostly be some sort of processing type fee to make nickles and dimes per transaction to pay our devs to continue expanding and things, or perhaps we get shares or something....

I also want to build an intentional community/eco-village with a glamping camp (that is managed/shared by the residents), with earthbag/container homes that are buried... part of me really wants to make this like a big medevil fortress or keep, and go all prepper/doomsday with plenty of rain catching devices, vertical farming, and solar panels.... but I'm not Elon Musk or a 6 figure earner.

Currently I'm working more on a SaaS starter for laravel, as a footbridge to everything else. Basically taking laravel jetstream, adding multi-tenancy (beyond teams but like orgs, which can have multiple teams, and members can belong to multiple orgs, with multiple polymorphic profiles (Employee, Vendor, Consumer, as general pre-configured types and unlimited scaling on types depending on model)...

Also plenty of easy components and a drag/drop tool to help combine layouts that can automatically make views in laravel so basically it's very low-code, and for us backend guys it's a lot easier to launch side projects if we don't need to worry about ui...

I got off on an ADHD tangent here, but my point is... sometimes its better to sacrifice and find something worth growing that can maybe be a side project or something -- if you can get to ramen mrr especially, than it is to work for someone else, and the more people who leave corporate America the higher wages will be for everyone because that drives up demand and lowers supply, so it's a win/win for my ideologies.

Re: Quit Your Job

#25
post #5

I'm conflicted by this article. I'm sympathetic to it, but some things just really push past my BS meter. For example: >This is related to why man became stunted with the dawn of agriculture. We traded a life limited by the occasional violent struggle over bountiful surplus for a more predictable life limited by grinding labor after barely sufficient nutrition. Firstly, "man" or humanity did all of their greatest wor…

> Before agriculture, life wasn't bountiful. It was short and harsh We all have a linear view of evolution: nomadism -> agriculture -> villages -> cities => for all the better. And we think life was really not fun before agriculture. Yet, some authors (especially in the recent years, with the progress of archeology) will note that things are maybe not so clear, and that's fascinating. With agriculture, man was (possi…

+1 "the dawn of everything" by Graeber is a lovely, fun, and inspiring read.

it's because Graeber expands thinking on history. who is to say he's right? it's not about that, it's about realizing how much we think we know about history... that we really can't actually know.

filling in the gaps is something people are great at doing. doesn't make it true though.

Re: Quit Your Job

#26

I found myself wishing for hip waders to even try to get through part of this self-congratulatory pile of BS. Reading between the lines told me he quit his job, mooched off of friends and girlfriend/wife, then managed to con people into investing in a magazine. I figure he had a trust fund somewhere, or has the gift of gab and could easily part fools from their cash.

It's also surviviorship bias. He quit his job and it worked out. So what? I can point to my brother-in-law, he's constantly quitting jobs and he's basically broke.

Re: Quit Your Job

#27
"Transform your perspective thus: rather than seeing the job as carrying out someone else’s will in exchange for money, see it as itself your sacred cosmic duty. What important task do you do for the project you work for? How does that project fit into creating a more glorious future? How is that future pleasing to God, the proper order of things, and your own felt value instincts? Your wage is just a budget given to you to help you carry out this sacred duty; give your whole life to the task at hand, and take responsibility for its whole logic. If something in that entire chain of purpose back to the highest purposes isn’t right, fix it. You own the task and the task owns you."

Wow, what is this even.

Re: Quit Your Job

#28
post #5

I'm conflicted by this article. I'm sympathetic to it, but some things just really push past my BS meter. For example: >This is related to why man became stunted with the dawn of agriculture. We traded a life limited by the occasional violent struggle over bountiful surplus for a more predictable life limited by grinding labor after barely sufficient nutrition. Firstly, "man" or humanity did all of their greatest wor…

> Before agriculture, life wasn't bountiful. It was short and harsh We all have a linear view of evolution: nomadism -> agriculture -> villages -> cities => for all the better. And we think life was really not fun before agriculture. Yet, some authors (especially in the recent years, with the progress of archeology) will note that things are maybe not so clear, and that's fascinating. With agriculture, man was (possi…

Most people have the impression that technology is always linear, too. Even the Antikythera mechanism shows us it is not.

Re: Quit Your Job

#29
post #7

In 2022 who still uses the term "courting"? I feel like it's a term used by somebody from the Edwardian era who needs a refill on their moustache wax.

Not a lot of people. What would be the modern day equivalent? It certainly isn’t dating, that’s too broad. Maybe “I started seeing someone”?

Re: Quit Your Job

#30

I found myself wishing for hip waders to even try to get through part of this self-congratulatory pile of BS. Reading between the lines told me he quit his job, mooched off of friends and girlfriend/wife, then managed to con people into investing in a magazine. I figure he had a trust fund somewhere, or has the gift of gab and could easily part fools from their cash.

Note: Author is a Tall, White, STEM educated dude living in America. So, his experiences is very specific to his skills, his reach and societal perceptions about him.

It's like getting dating tips from an attractive person or money advise from a trust fund baby

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