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New Law Will Install Kill Switches in All New Cars

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Re: New Law Will Install Kill Switches in All New Cars

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I've had several different cars flash the "Do you need a break?" (with coffee cup logo) on the dash when driving through work zones where you are redirected and over various lane lines at odd angles. It would be really bad if the car automatically shut off in those situations.

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I've had several different cars flash the "Do you need a break?" (with coffee cup logo) on the dash when driving through work zones where you are redirected and over various lane lines at odd angles. It would be really bad if the car automatically shut off in those situations.

But it would be an innovative business opportunity to flash that sign when near the car manufacturer's trusted partners in the restaurant and convenience store businesses.

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The actual law says that all cars after a certain date should have a system that can:

"passively monitor the performance of a driver of a motor vehicle to accurately identify whether that driver may be impaired; and prevent or limit motor vehicle operation if an impairment is detected"

There is an OR for detecting high blood alcohol level.

There are a few years to get input, come up with preliminary rules, get more input, finalize the rules and give time for manufacturers to implement them.

This could save 10,000 lives per year and tens of billions of dollars per year.

The law says "prevent or limit operation". That is pretty broad.

If it is a breathalyzer, or a speed limiter when you are swerving over a 2 minute period, I am fine with that.

If it shuts you down for going over the speed limit for 10 seconds, or make an emergency maneuver, then I am not so happy. But that is why we have a representative form of government, and input on regulations.

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The actual law says that all cars after a certain date should have a system that can: "passively monitor the performance of a driver of a motor vehicle to accurately identify whether that driver may be impaired; and prevent or limit motor vehicle operation if an impairment is detected" There is an OR for detecting high blood alcohol level. There are a few years to get input, come up with preliminary rules, get more i…

Why would I ever willingly buy a vehicle that I’m not fully in control of and that can force me to pull over whenever it wants? False positives are an inevitability; the best you can do is make them infrequent. Still, I would prefer to not have the system in my vehicle since I don’t drink and am at no risk of driving drunk.

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The actual law says that all cars after a certain date should have a system that can: "passively monitor the performance of a driver of a motor vehicle to accurately identify whether that driver may be impaired; and prevent or limit motor vehicle operation if an impairment is detected" There is an OR for detecting high blood alcohol level. There are a few years to get input, come up with preliminary rules, get more i…

How many lives would surrendering all our freedoms save?

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post #7

The actual law says that all cars after a certain date should have a system that can: "passively monitor the performance of a driver of a motor vehicle to accurately identify whether that driver may be impaired; and prevent or limit motor vehicle operation if an impairment is detected" There is an OR for detecting high blood alcohol level. There are a few years to get input, come up with preliminary rules, get more i…

How many lives would surrendering all our freedoms save?

As many lives as (gasp) using hyperboles would, as they slide down a slippery slope.

Re: New Law Will Install Kill Switches in All New Cars

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The actual law says that all cars after a certain date should have a system that can: "passively monitor the performance of a driver of a motor vehicle to accurately identify whether that driver may be impaired; and prevent or limit motor vehicle operation if an impairment is detected" There is an OR for detecting high blood alcohol level. There are a few years to get input, come up with preliminary rules, get more i…

"But that is why we have a representative form of government, and input on regulations."

Unless, you know, your representative doesn't listen to you. Or you've had a felony. Or you are 17. Or you live overseas. Or you are an immigrant (Some places allow immigrants to vote in local elections).

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The actual law says that all cars after a certain date should have a system that can: "passively monitor the performance of a driver of a motor vehicle to accurately identify whether that driver may be impaired; and prevent or limit motor vehicle operation if an impairment is detected" There is an OR for detecting high blood alcohol level. There are a few years to get input, come up with preliminary rules, get more i…

>"passively monitor the performance of a driver of a motor vehicle to accurately identify whether that driver may be impaired; and prevent or limit motor vehicle operation if an impairment is detected"

The second part of this is straightforward but can be disabled by the car's owner. The first part may well be completely impossible.

We can't even instruct humans in how to definitively determine impairment except in limited circumstances, and even then it's only a diagnostic test that has to be confirmed by an invasive medical test.

I don't like this law at all or how it made its way into the bill so quietly... but in reality this isn't going to happen in practical terms for a few decades, because it's going to take that long to develop an AI that can do this.

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