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Re: Keyboard lets people type so fast it’s banned from typing competitions

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The "500 WPM" video is a little suspect. He types literally one memorized sentence and extrapolates a WPM from that one 10 word sentence. I'd like to see him actually type 500 meaningful words in under 60 seconds. Anyway, this is cool but basically just a modern stenography device. Steno has a learning curve problem that makes it so most people won't use it.

I can type the word "a" at 1000 WPM!

That's 32 keystrokes per second, I'm impressed. Unless you're using vim, in which case a minute is a long time to type: `ia 0d$1000p`

Re: Keyboard lets people type so fast it’s banned from typing competitions

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Back in the 90's I worked with a guy who used a Dvorak. Any fans still out there?

I use Colemak, but I don't really buy into any of the claims of improved comfort or speed. It took me somewhere between 1-2 years to get to about the same typing speed as QWERTY (somewhere between 120-150 WPM depending on the test), and I have completely lost my ability to type QWERTY without looking at the keyboard. As others have said it is a big hassle when working on other machines or through things like remote desktop.

That being said, I don't regret anything and Colemak is way more comfortable, for me. I never typed "properly" in QWERTY, I would use every finger on my left hand, but only two on my right hand. I started to notice some pain in my right hand and so I tried to retrain myself to type properly, but it never lasted more than a day because I was typing half the speed with proper technique. The only way I could force myself to use a proper typing technique was to just completely switch the layout.

Re: Keyboard lets people type so fast it’s banned from typing competitions

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I'm typing even less these days with tools like copilot.

For some reason I don’t like any of this automation tools. I find VSCode unbearable even without copilot. Too many things happen when I type. I prefer linting and that’s about all I want to write my code peacefully. I use vim in iTerm and it’s all I ever need. Jump off to Pycharm to debug if needed.

I use vim quite a bit too, just sayin...

https://github.com/github/copilot.vim

Re: Keyboard lets people type so fast it’s banned from typing competitions

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I, and I think many other people, didn't really 'work' at learning to type. We just practiced as a side effect of using the computer rather than, say, taking typing lessons. For someone like me, QWERTY has a difficulty curve. I think seno technically wouldn't have a curve. The inability to hunt and peck means that without explicitly setting aside time to train in steno, there isn't any way to make real progress. Math…

I never learned to write on a keyboard in a controlled way and I still can't 'touch type' naturally. I tried to learn in, but I always fall back to my old habits since my right hand hurt otherwise. I don't think I will ever bother getting fast. It is probably way better to learn it properly from the beginning.

A while back I decided to fix some of my bad keyboard habits. I forget the software I used, but it took me about 2 weeks of daily 15 minute practice to fix many of my bad habits and improve my typing skills in general. I’ve been thinking about doing it again because I still have some remaining bad habits, especially with the pinkies. Well worth the effort, at least for me.

Re: Keyboard lets people type so fast it’s banned from typing competitions

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I can type the word "a" at 1000 WPM!

That's 32 keystrokes per second, I'm impressed. Unless you're using vim, in which case a minute is a long time to type: `ia 0d$1000p`

Or quicker: 1000ia

Re: Keyboard lets people type so fast it’s banned from typing competitions

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I, and I think many other people, didn't really 'work' at learning to type. We just practiced as a side effect of using the computer rather than, say, taking typing lessons. For someone like me, QWERTY has a difficulty curve. I think seno technically wouldn't have a curve. The inability to hunt and peck means that without explicitly setting aside time to train in steno, there isn't any way to make real progress. Math…

I never learned to write on a keyboard in a controlled way and I still can't 'touch type' naturally. I tried to learn in, but I always fall back to my old habits since my right hand hurt otherwise. I don't think I will ever bother getting fast. It is probably way better to learn it properly from the beginning.

For some reason whenever I try to touch type 'correctly' I make typos. But I do get most of my fingers in play when typing normally. I just have a weird stance -- left index on f, right middle on j, right pinky on p. Index and middle fingers do a little extra work, left pinky is mostly reserved for control keys -- esc, crtl...

I dunno. I don't have anywhere near 60 words per minute that are actually worth recording.

Re: Keyboard lets people type so fast it’s banned from typing competitions

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QWERTY has a steep learning curve as well, it’s just that it’s so ubiquitous that most people don’t question or remember the work that was put into.

True, but QWERTY is labeled and obvious how to use. Hence the great number of woodpecking that occurs out there.

That's why I got a Dvorak skin for my TypeMatrix keyboard. I know QWERTY well enough I don't have to look for it, and I can switch to Dvorak and be able to peek if need be.

Re: Keyboard lets people type so fast it’s banned from typing competitions

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A significant difference between a conventional keyboard and steno is that a conventional keyboard is capable of producing all the of the text we normally type, and a steno machine is not. A necessary part of stenotype is a combination of pre-work (dictionary development for e.g. proper names) and post-work (editing the steno transcript to produce a "real English" document instead of one that may only have the genera…

CharaCorder is not a stenograph, individual character entry is supported, just like a normal qwerty keyboard.

Yeah but you are not going to get the speeds they boast about without steno.

Re: Keyboard lets people type so fast it’s banned from typing competitions

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> chorded typing allows the users to input several letters at the same time and have a computer program generate a predicted word. Instead of typing h e l l o, a chorded typer mashes h, e, l, and o to produce the word. It sounds like it relies heavily on autocomplete, which means it's unlikely to be useful for coding instead of just English text.

No, that means it's likely very useful for coding instead of English. You just need a custom dictionary. Code has a smaller vocabulary than prose, even with the domain-specific words that get used as identifiers . You could probably do pretty well with a dictionary that just has all the keywords in your favorite language, plus some common variable names. Heck I bet it'd be a win just to make the punctuation used in c…

Seems like it would be better to have the device be dictionary agnostic and leave it to your editor do know whether you're writing a comment, or code, or a string containing sql...
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