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Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by lamontcg »

awb wrote: post #445
benjaminwootton wrote: post #103

Surely this is the end of the pandemic? With an estimated 300k+ cases per day here in the UK, that is 10 million this month on top of everyone who has already had it. It’s as though nobody is ready to acknowledge the elephant in the room that Covid is nearly finished. Or am I missing something?

It doesn’t appear to be competing with COVID as much as supplementing it. https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article25678686... Omicron is infecting fully vaccinated people and those with previous infection. In the early cases detected in SA, many had already had COVID and/or Delta. It would be amazing if an Omicron infection produced antibodies that fought off COVID & Delta, as that could rapidly bring rel…

You're thinking about it all wrong. Omicron and Delta are the same virus, and there's not particularly any good data that Omicron is less intrinsically virulent than Delta.

Omicron infects those who are unboosted, and likely reinfects a lot of the population that is >6 months recovered from prior single infection.

It is all about the fact that Omicron infects people who already have T-cells and aren't immunologically naive. The way out of the pandemic is our memory B-cells and T-cells.

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by omnicognate »

regularfry wrote: post #461
omnicognate wrote: post #339

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Ah, so you can contract both viruses but are only likely to pass one on? Do you know why that is?

They have different transmission probabilities. Omicron has far more presence in the upper respiratory tract. It's just a numbers game, they're not competing in any active sense.

In that case I don't understand the "omicron will outcompete other variants" thing I keep reading about. If they don't interact wouldn't the progress of one variant be unaffected by the presence of another?

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by sanderjd »

uhtred wrote: post #442
gilbetron wrote: post #351

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That sounds like a fairly typical cold, maybe edging to "bad" in my experience. I'm double vaxxed plus a booster about 1 month ago, and currently have Omicron. I have roughly the same experience as you, although less on the coughing, which is odd because I usually get a lot more coughing with colds.

> That sounds like a fairly typical cold No, it doesn't. I've never felt "wiped out" from a typical cold.

FWIW: To me, it sounded like an atypical cold or a typical flu. I've been "wiped out" by colds before, though rarely, and I'm always "wiped out" by flus, though I catch them a lot less often than once a year.

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by drusepth »

uhtred wrote: post #442
gilbetron wrote: post #351

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That sounds like a fairly typical cold, maybe edging to "bad" in my experience. I'm double vaxxed plus a booster about 1 month ago, and currently have Omicron. I have roughly the same experience as you, although less on the coughing, which is odd because I usually get a lot more coughing with colds.

> That sounds like a fairly typical cold No, it doesn't. I've never felt "wiped out" from a typical cold.

I regularly feel "wiped out" from a typical cold, often for 4+ days in a row.

This whole thread is full of anecdotes from people implicitly claiming that their experience applies to everyone, when in reality everyone's going to have different experiences with everything from colds to covid. Unfortunately, the latter has a much higher prevalence of seriously-worse side-effects (long-haul, ageusia, anosmia, death, etc) compared to the former.

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by nradov »

mullingitover wrote: post #466
rafale wrote: post #107

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Our savior Omicron. The ultimate vaccinator. Nature finally had mercy on us.

Omicron isn't significantly more contagious than Delta for the unvaccinated, however. It's just that the vaccinated can spread omicron, so anyone who wasn't vaccinated and managed to dodge infection for this long is now in nightmare-level difficulty when it comes to remaining uninfected.

Omicron appears to be significantly more contagious than Delta for everyone including the unvaccinated.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2...

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by dehrmann »

convolvatron wrote: post #310
dehrmann wrote: post #243

With all the restrictions over the past two years, have we been selecting for hyper-contagious strains?

yes. would letting the original strains run amok freely have been better? I guess more people would have died, but it would have been over sooner.

Death counts are also hard to compare because earlier variants already killed a lot of high-risk people.

Would we rather have a widespread epidemic we know less about and can control or a less deadly one we have treatments for, but have limited control over? It's hard to say. It'll be interesting to see what happens with omicron in China where they're trying their hardest to control it.

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by [deleted] »

bingohbangoh wrote: post #476
bratwurst3000 wrote: post #152

Just giving my 2 cents. Got boosted 3 weeks ago. Now I have covid. Everything is fine, feels like the least ill i ever was from anything. But I wanted to state that omnicron is a beast. I did wear a ffp2 mask with nearly every social contact and if we didnt wear mask we would test ourself. I am sure I got it from the streets from people passing by. That said I am in the french alps and it was vacation time here. And…

I'll give my two cents then. People are probably not gonna like it here but I think alternative perspective is important. I got vaccinated in June 2021 and haven't been following any restrictions or rules for the last ~10mo. No masks (unless forced or asked), haven't limited human contact, haven't stopped seeing Grandma, etc. I have traveled extensively in the past four months, including to two foreign countries. I n…

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Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by abletonlive »

uhtred wrote: post #433
steelstraw wrote: post #332

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Congratulations. You haven't had a bad cold or flu before. It's not uncommon for the flu to knock someone out for a good week. Or for a cold to leave a lingering cough for weeks.

You are the gatekeeper on feeling sick, now?

Pointless post. We could ask the same of you.

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by technothrasher »

uhtred wrote: post #442
gilbetron wrote: post #351

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That sounds like a fairly typical cold, maybe edging to "bad" in my experience. I'm double vaxxed plus a booster about 1 month ago, and currently have Omicron. I have roughly the same experience as you, although less on the coughing, which is odd because I usually get a lot more coughing with colds.

> That sounds like a fairly typical cold No, it doesn't. I've never felt "wiped out" from a typical cold.

My 15 yo son got Covid about three weeks ago, symptoms matched what the parent poster described, including feeling "wiped out". Oh wait, no he didn't. Testing all came back negative. Diagnosis from his pediatrician: common cold.

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by awb »

lamontcg wrote: post #491
awb wrote: post #445

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn’t appear to be competing with COVID as much as supplementing it. https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article25678686... Omicron is infecting fully vaccinated people and those with previous infection. In the early cases detected in SA, many had already had COVID and/or Delta. It would be amazing if an Omicron infection produced antibodies that fought off COVID & Delta, as that could rapidly bring rel…

You're thinking about it all wrong. Omicron and Delta are the same virus, and there's not particularly any good data that Omicron is less intrinsically virulent than Delta. Omicron infects those who are unboosted, and likely reinfects a lot of the population that is >6 months recovered from prior single infection. It is all about the fact that Omicron infects people who already have T-cells and aren't immunologically…

> It is all about the fact that Omicron infects people who already have T-cells and aren't immunologically naive. The way out of the pandemic is our memory B-cells and T-cells.

What does immunologically naive mean? And how do B-cells and T-cells help us get out of the pandemic?

Trying to learn as much as possible, thanks.

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