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They're competing to infect the next hosts in the chain. With two present, the one that can get itself passed on more often wins overall.
Ah, so you can contract both viruses but are only likely to pass one on? Do you know why that is?
Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado
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Correct. I know several people who are vaccinated yet caught Covid twice. The principle thing to keep in mind, - vaccination is a risk reducer on severity of infection. Nobody said immunity; nobody said prevention. - and on that point not getting into the hospital is important. From a management standpoint, we've got to insure demand for hospital resources does not dwarf those same resources. That's the key managemen…
> Nobody said immunity; nobody said prevention. What on earth? Yes they did, all along. December 2020: > Fauci Predicts U.S. Could See Signs Of Herd Immunity By Late March Or Early April https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/1... > "I would say 50% would have to get vaccinated before you start to see an impact," Fauci said. "But I would say 75 to 85% would have to get vaccinated if you want to ha…
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#465I am reminded of "Don't Look Up" scene: It is going to happen. Exactly. 99.78% to be exact. Oh, great. Okay, so it’s not 100%. Well, scientists never like to say 100%.
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#466The CDC publishes a weekly chart showing the proportions of circulating variants for the US as a whole. The Delta variant had previously driven most other variants near extinction, and now Omicron is doing the same to Delta. https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#circulatingVariant...
Our savior Omicron. The ultimate vaccinator. Nature finally had mercy on us.
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Congratulations. You haven't had a bad cold or flu before. It's not uncommon for the flu to knock someone out for a good week. Or for a cold to leave a lingering cough for weeks.
You are the gatekeeper on feeling sick, now?
It's understandable that some are very concerned after or about getting sick but many of us, for our own sanity and psychological health, need to move on.
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#468There are 15k covid RNA in every ml of sewage coming out of boston right now. Figure 200l a day of sewage per person and that is a lot of covid. I would hold off on eating oysters for a bit. https://www.mwra.com/biobot/biobotdata.htm
One whole population group to study to get a better understanding of how bad this wave is is to look at the cruise line industry. Everyone has to get tested, and thus you are studying a whole population. According to a recent CDC report [1], between Nov 30 - Dec 14 of 2021, 162 cases were reported on cruise ships. Then the next two weeks 5013 cases were reported. This is roughly a 30x increase!
If you look at the NY Times infections chart[2], in the same time period, their 7 day average only went up like 3x. This is grossly under reporting of infections.
The sewage chart looks at a whole population and it is easy to see the increase in infection is more in the 30x scale than it is the 3x scale.
Be safe out there everybody. If you look at whole population groups, Covid is way more infectious than what a lot of news media outlets and their data would tell you.
1. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/30/us-cdc-says-people-should-av... 2. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-c...
This sewage report is about a whole population and it is clear to see infections many more times higher than what a lot of news agencies are reporting.
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At this point that is the best case. COVID zero is a pipe dream, there are just too many vaccine refusers and too many people refusing to do anything to avoid spreading the virus. If COVID follows the typical evolutionary pattern of viruses and becomes less dangerous, we can get back to normal life -- the question is how long that will take.
I'm not sure what basis you have for assuming it will evolve to be less dangerous, Since it still leaves most of its host alive I can't think of a mechanism that would prevent it from staying equally deadly, except of course that most of the population will have some degree of immunity. This pandemic will inevitably end, after which Covid-19 may stay endemic, but Covid-19 becoming endemic and the pandemic ending aren…
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#470Dr. Katelyn Jetelina, MPH PhD, has a nice substack from perspective of an epidemiologist. Two notable recent Omicron posts on that substack: The potentially scary aspects: https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/state-of-affa... The potentially good news: https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/there-is-good... Obviously it is still early, but imo those 2 posts give a decent lay of the land.
" We can easily see that in many graphs, but my favorite is below from New York City, showing a clear distinction in hospitalizations among vaccinated compared to unvaccinated people " I don't see this as much here in Ontario. Among the vaccinated as of today there is a 10.10/100k hospitalization status vs 16/100k for the unvaccinated (and 11.9 for one-dose). The hospitalization rate among the vaccinated is climbing…
I highly recommend anybody concerned about hospitalization among the vaccinated read this post. It's about Delta hospitalizations in Israel 2021, but we should expect the same effect from Omicron and across countries: https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/israeli-data-how-can-...