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Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by the_doctah »

contravariant wrote: post #172
bratwurst3000 wrote: post #152

Just giving my 2 cents. Got boosted 3 weeks ago. Now I have covid. Everything is fine, feels like the least ill i ever was from anything. But I wanted to state that omnicron is a beast. I did wear a ffp2 mask with nearly every social contact and if we didnt wear mask we would test ourself. I am sure I got it from the streets from people passing by. That said I am in the french alps and it was vacation time here. And…

Why are you hoping for Covid to become endemic?

It's more of an acceptance of reality than a hope, I think.

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by uhtred »

gilbetron wrote: post #351
shrikant wrote: post #260

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Congratulations. Both my wife and I (double vaxxed for 5 months, not boosted yet although were just about to do so) caught Omicron-flavoured Covid in the lead-up to Christmas and it wiped us out each for 2-3 days each, with a combination of fatigue, aches, fever, and violent coughing. Certainly worse than any cold or flu we've had up until that point. I still have a pretty nasty cough and a throat inflammation. Aren'…

That sounds like a fairly typical cold, maybe edging to "bad" in my experience. I'm double vaxxed plus a booster about 1 month ago, and currently have Omicron. I have roughly the same experience as you, although less on the coughing, which is odd because I usually get a lot more coughing with colds.

> That sounds like a fairly typical cold

No, it doesn't. I've never felt "wiped out" from a typical cold.

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by TranquilMarmot »

hereforphone wrote: post #28

I've been traveling internationally over the past couple of day. Every person seems to have the sniffles, or to be coughing. I haven't noticed this since covid began, presumably because the masks, sanitizer use, and social distancing have kept the cold and flu down.

I stay inside most of the time and don't really go out or travel or anything. Only time I leave the house is to walk the dog.

It does seem like that past month or so I've been hearing constant sniffling, coughing, and sneezing as I walk around the neighborhood.

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by henrikschroder »

elif wrote: post #214
hitpointdrew wrote: post #142

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>Surely this is the end of the pandemic? Yes, welcome to the endemic. Covid is here to stay, it doesn't matter if 100% of the world were vaccinated tommrow, covid would not go away. It doesn't matter if you get the vaccination or not, in your life time you WILL get covid (just like the flu, no one escapes it, you typically get the flu about every decade or so regardless of shots). We need to just accept this and move…

I think that may be a completely rational perspective from within the United States... however, from the perspective of countries with effective containment strategies, that sounds prematurely defeatist, and also ignores the vast good that comes from containing spread for mutagenic purposes.

What effective containment strategies? Pretty much every country's strategies have completely collapsed due to Omicron.

Australia currently has a wildly exponential growth of cases and twice the number of daily cases/capita compared to Sweden, to take two countries at each end of the "containment" spectrum. And that's despite Australia being in the middle of summer, despite Australia being isolated in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, and despite Australia having more restrictions than Sweden right now.

It's all hubris. We have way less control over the spread than we like to think.

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by awb »

benjaminwootton wrote: post #103

Surely this is the end of the pandemic? With an estimated 300k+ cases per day here in the UK, that is 10 million this month on top of everyone who has already had it. It’s as though nobody is ready to acknowledge the elephant in the room that Covid is nearly finished. Or am I missing something?

It doesn’t appear to be competing with COVID as much as supplementing it.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article25678686...

Omicron is infecting fully vaccinated people and those with previous infection. In the early cases detected in SA, many had already had COVID and/or Delta.

It would be amazing if an Omicron infection produced antibodies that fought off COVID & Delta, as that could rapidly bring relief to the pandemic, but I haven’t seen that suggested anywhere yet.

If it’s largely immune to the vaccine and doesn’t produce antibodies against COVID/Delta, we might as well label it a new disease instead of a variant.

Luckily it seems to be incredibly mild. I wonder if we had such robust data on the common cold of it would look similar to Omicron.

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by JamesBarney »

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #276
gz5 wrote: post #84

Dr. Katelyn Jetelina, MPH PhD, has a nice substack from perspective of an epidemiologist. Two notable recent Omicron posts on that substack: The potentially scary aspects: https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/state-of-affa... The potentially good news: https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/there-is-good... Obviously it is still early, but imo those 2 posts give a decent lay of the land.

" We can easily see that in many graphs, but my favorite is below from New York City, showing a clear distinction in hospitalizations among vaccinated compared to unvaccinated people " I don't see this as much here in Ontario. Among the vaccinated as of today there is a 10.10/100k hospitalization status vs 16/100k for the unvaccinated (and 11.9 for one-dose). The hospitalization rate among the vaccinated is climbing…

Mind sharing the data you're looking at from Ontario?

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by pessimizer »

gpm wrote: post #131
callumprentice wrote: post #123

Can anyone point me to a reliable source that explains in layman's terms why one cancels out the other and it's not possible to have both (say) delta and omicron at once. Somewhat tongue in cheek, but since cancellation seems to be the case, could we not create a version that was 100x more transmissible than omicron but completely benign? Cane toads in Australia aside ;)

> could we not create a version that was 100x more transmissible than omicron but completely benign? Cane toads in Australia aside ;) You overestimate our abilities to make viruses that do what we want, let alone to make viruses that do what we want and won't evolve into viruses that do what we don't want after being released into the wild. This is also basically saying "can't we make a transmissible vaccine", and as…

I feel like I recall at least one worm that somebody released that would infect servers, patch the vulnerability that it used to get in, infect other vulnerable servers, then delete itself.

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by perydell »

shrikant wrote: post #260
spurgu wrote: post #166

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I have omicron right now (4-5 months after 2nd jab, so pretty much no effect from that) and it's just like a common cold (certainly wouldn't call it "battling omicron"). I have zero problems with getting this each year.

Congratulations. Both my wife and I (double vaxxed for 5 months, not boosted yet although were just about to do so) caught Omicron-flavoured Covid in the lead-up to Christmas and it wiped us out each for 2-3 days each, with a combination of fatigue, aches, fever, and violent coughing. Certainly worse than any cold or flu we've had up until that point. I still have a pretty nasty cough and a throat inflammation. Aren'…

I am curious how you know it was Omicron. Was it sequenced and they told you that?

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by atwebb »

spurgu wrote: post #166
causality0 wrote: post #118

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You're missing the fact you can catch it over and over. My wife is currently battling Omicron after we both had covid at the start of last year. Fully vaccinated and boosted three weeks ago, caught it anyway. With an infected population this massive mutations happen fast enough to cause a new wave before the old one burns out.

I have omicron right now (4-5 months after 2nd jab, so pretty much no effect from that) and it's just like a common cold (certainly wouldn't call it "battling omicron"). I have zero problems with getting this each year.

Whew, I'm similar and it tanked me for about a week. I could feel every joint in my body and breathing was a conscientious decision for a few days due to the pain/discomfort. It has subsided a bit (and my family wasn't hit as hard) but I have 0 interest in experiencing it again. Currently hoping it doesn't impact me long term since I like to stay active.

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by cosmiccrisp »

sudosysgen wrote: post #403
cmrdporcupine wrote: post #276

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" We can easily see that in many graphs, but my favorite is below from New York City, showing a clear distinction in hospitalizations among vaccinated compared to unvaccinated people " I don't see this as much here in Ontario. Among the vaccinated as of today there is a 10.10/100k hospitalization status vs 16/100k for the unvaccinated (and 11.9 for one-dose). The hospitalization rate among the vaccinated is climbing…

You have to normalize by age. Unvaccinated people in Canada are overwhelmingly very very young, in Quebec most of them are too young to be vaccinated. That's why they don't get hospitalized as much :) Lies, damned lies, and statistics!

I want to lookup data on the average age of unvaxed patients currently in the ICU but so far have not found any.
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