TSMC’s Arizona Culture Clash • Hacker News Board

Re: TSMC’s Arizona Culture Clash

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Post by deanCommie » Thu, Jan 06, 2022, 7:14 PM UTC

sitkack wrote: post #299

deanCommie wrote: post #261

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Yes...with a lot of asterixes. Ask anyone who worked in retail for a long time. When they replaced the point of sale and catalog search systems in the early 2000's, everyone's productivity plummeted. They replaced old, DOS/Norton-style keyboard-only systems with a legion of shortcuts and archaic codes with Web-based touch-screen or mouse-based UIs with modern UX etc. The new technology was obviously more modern and a…

I appreciate the sentiment, but we are talking about different things. My comment was directed entirely at how hard some companies push their workforce, not what era the technology is from.

Understood, my mistake.

Re: TSMC’s Arizona Culture Clash

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Post by jason0597 » Sun, Jan 09, 2022, 5:01 PM UTC

majormajor wrote: post #272

jason0597 wrote: post #264

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> Personally I'm waiting for engineering salaries in the non-US to catch up to the US because it'll make it easier for me to leave the US if I choose to do so but it doesn't look like it's happened yet. What difference would it make to your quality of life if you made $60k in Europe instead of $150k in America? Sure, your net worth wouldn't increase at the same rate, but should we define our lives around our net wort…

It would primary affect both the specific city/location and quality of housing my family was in as well as our long-term economic security and flexibility. The latter is the most important part, but the former is important to me as well. Having money in the bank is basically the same as having choices.

This implies that someone making $60k in Europe is living in poorer quality housing and/or living in a poorer location compared to someone making $150k in America, which I do believe to be the case.

>as well as our long-term economic security and flexibility >Having money in the bank is basically the same as having choices.

Do people in Europe not have long-term economic security and flexibility? Do they not have choices?

Re: TSMC’s Arizona Culture Clash

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Post by webmaven » Tue, Jan 11, 2022, 1:11 AM UTC

DavidPeiffer wrote: post #288

webmaven wrote: post #239

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> As far as I'm concerned, it's black magic and truly an incredible achievement for humanity. Fabs seem to be the far edge of tools-to-make-the-tools dependency stack, with some of the necessary sorcerous gadgets (like EUV lithography) themselves only having a single supplier with the necessary secret incantations on the other side of the planet. Does the knowledge even exist to bootstrap things back up again should…

>Does the knowledge even exist to bootstrap things back up again should the present infrastructure and supply chains be sufficiently disrupted? Man, I'd love to know. Hypothetical scenarios are: 1) Everything is available at your fingertips supply chain wise, but you have no equipment. How long until we're at our current technical capability? 2) No equipment and the supply chain need to be rebuilt, but the designs ar…

> 3) We have sticks and stones and whatever is in our brains. Start fresh like a game of Factorio and see how well you can do on a speed run.

I don't recall exactly where (some large ouvre like The Culture, or The Polity), but some SF novel referred in passing to this becoming an extreme sport: Your team is dropped with no supplies on an uninhabited planet, and you try to bootstrap back to an interstellar capability.

IIRC, the aside mentioned that the current record was ~70 years, by a team genetically engineered for ultra-efficient digestion and no need for sleep.