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Personal anecdote, sample size of 1: I know an unvaccinated person who has had it 3 times. Not immunocompromised, otherwise healthy.
Were they at least 6-9 months apart, or closer to a year?
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I mean, it's pretty early to be drawing conclusions about this with omicron. Especially since it hit right as people in most of the vaccinated world were hitting 5-6mo since their second shots. That doesn't mean it's "unfalsifiable" it just means it hasn't been yet. That said, I don't think the null hypothesis is suddenly "vaccines do nothing" for some reason. It's clear enough it spreads more easily but that doesn't…
It's only too early if, like our public health authorities, you are too bigoted and self-important to trust South African medical scientists because they aren't from a mostly white country. That's my take on why the CDC ignored their scientists, as did the media. From the very beginning, the South African medical authorities were screaming that this variant was producing far fewer hospitalizations OVERALL (despite hi…
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To actually answer the question: because immunity from one transfers to the other. Omicron is basically a self-administering vaccine that is preventing Delta from spreading as easily.
I love this self-administering vaccine as it so elegantly explains the answer to the parent's question. BUT, it is so elegant that you just provided fuel for the new conspiracy theory of how government forced us to get vaccinated by creating this crazy new variant in a lab that would essentially spread the vaccine without our permission. Just waiting for that to start bubbling up from the fringes ;)
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Hospitals can be unavoidable if you're unlucky and get hurt. Grocery stores, too, but you can minimize your trips. But the other ones? Totally voluntary and avoidable. The public health guidance around COVID has been atrocious, even as scientists learn more about how the disease spreads indoors. We're going to probably need to change our "indoor event" focused culture if we want to have any hope of getting this behin…
There's no need to change our indoor event focused culture. Now that we have vaccines and other improved therapies we can just accept the risk and move on. In fact, outside the HN bubble people in some states already did that months ago. We're not all watching the same movie.
The issue, and this remains true today, is that hospital space is filling up fast (and did fill up in those states months ago).
A discussion must take place about balancing our individual social needs with the needs of our public health system. There was a train-derailment in Montana in 2021, and COVID19 filled up their hospitals so much that the injured needed to be driven 2+ hours away to look for hospital space / treatment.
Is that the kind of community you want to be a part of? Where your nearby doctors and nurses are not accepting any of the injured train passengers due to the overwhelming COVID19 case numbers?
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We definitely need to do our part as individuals to minimize the damage we cause to our hospital systems.
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There's something to be said that "Yes, this tradeoff is worthwhile but only for the end-of-year parties". Vs overwhelming your hospital space just to "own the libs" when no major parties / social events are even happening in the middle of August.
omicron has solidly taken over Vancouver BC. Anecdotal evidence: in the past two years (except this past week) I have only known 1 person who got covid. In the past week I know over 20 people who have got covid. I sincerely hope that this is the beginning of the end of covid lockdowns. omicron is taking the world by storm and I wouldn't be surprised if the entire world gets it in the next few weeks.
Those 20 people are fine, right?
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It’s not that simple: yes, if someone gets in a car crash it’s probably not COVID but there are many cases where someone had a manageable condition that was disrupted by COVID — not 100% fault but not 0%, and a big problem for hospital capacity.
Counterpoint; My mum nearly died of Covid, six weeks in hospital, four of which were in ICU. On leaving we discovered she no longer had epilepsy.
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Congratulations. Both my wife and I (double vaxxed for 5 months, not boosted yet although were just about to do so) caught Omicron-flavoured Covid in the lead-up to Christmas and it wiped us out each for 2-3 days each, with a combination of fatigue, aches, fever, and violent coughing. Certainly worse than any cold or flu we've had up until that point. I still have a pretty nasty cough and a throat inflammation. Aren'…
It’s terrible to feel terrible, but getting over the worst part of Covid in 3 days is an enormous improvement from how unvaccinated people fared in the initial waves. Even for people not hospitalized, they dealt with pneumonia and shortness of breath for weeks. I think we can celebrate the progress we are making in reducing the average severity of this disease and there are more tools coming soon with Pfizer’s new pi…
I have absolutely non-zero desire to go through this every year, unlike my parent commenter though.
Would I be of a similar opinion as parent if I had a similarly asymptomatic-to-mild case? I don't know for sure, but I would hope not, because I wouldn't want to draw conclusions or base policy from just my anecdotal experience.
Other replies to me appear needlessly partisan jibes: I neither said nor implied anything about continued lockdowns and any such inference is pure projection.
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At this point that is the best case. COVID zero is a pipe dream, there are just too many vaccine refusers and too many people refusing to do anything to avoid spreading the virus. If COVID follows the typical evolutionary pattern of viruses and becomes less dangerous, we can get back to normal life -- the question is how long that will take.
> typical evolutionary pattern of viruses and becomes less dangerous Wishful thinking (that I hope comes true). Ebola got more lethal, not less.
There are 15k covid RNA in every ml of sewage coming out of boston right now. Figure 200l a day of sewage per person and that is a lot of covid. I would hold off on eating oysters for a bit. https://www.mwra.com/biobot/biobotdata.htm
> I would hold off on eating oysters for a bit. why? RNA detected != active virus. e.g. in room temperature, virus can survive the maximum of 5 days (on plastic 3 days, cardboard 24h). It's an impossible vector of transmission.
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It’s terrible to feel terrible, but getting over the worst part of Covid in 3 days is an enormous improvement from how unvaccinated people fared in the initial waves. Even for people not hospitalized, they dealt with pneumonia and shortness of breath for weeks. I think we can celebrate the progress we are making in reducing the average severity of this disease and there are more tools coming soon with Pfizer’s new pi…
Your comment makes it out like everyone with Covid had pnuemonia and shortness of breath for weeks, when really it was a small minority.
I don't think 1% is "a small minority".