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Re: I Miss RSS

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Post by tlavoie »

mocheeze wrote: post #138
foresto wrote: post #136

Since my browser removed the two-click feature for sending a site's feed URL to my RSS reader, I now do a bit more manual work to find RSS URLs myself. Twitter lost its native RSS support, but Nitter provides RSS links. Example: https://nitter.net/eff/rss Reddit provides RSS for most listings, including search results. All you have to do is append .rss to the path part of the URL. Example: https://old.reddit.com/r/ha…

I use a reader that automatically pulls feeds from Twitter and other social media like Reddit. Just need to plop the URL into the feed field and they figure it out. I pay for it, but it's pretty nice for getting back to the old Google Reader feel. ( https://bazcux.com )

Are you still paying for it? That host and domain aren't resolving for me.

Re: I Miss RSS

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Post by wizzwizz4 »

TekMol wrote: post #280
wizzwizz4 wrote: post #278

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not feasible either. Where does the money come from?

Where does the money to do Bitcoin mining come from? From the users who want to write to the Bitcoin blockchain. Same with the blockchains that support larger amounts of data. Whoever wants to store data pays for it. The specifics of how the storage of rare content is incentivized depends on the protocol. On Filecoin the publisher pays an ongoing fee. On Arweave it is paid upfront. The current estimate is that $10 wi…

I think you fundamentally misunderstand Bitcoin. People don't pay to store data on the blockchain; they pay to get their transactions mined. There's no guarantee that all the blocks of the Bitcoin blockchain will stick around forever, only that there'll be a consensus as to what the current block is, and what the states of all the wallets are (since that's the only information you need to validate a new block).

Keeping historical blocks around is not a property of Bitcoin. No up-front blockchain payment system can keep data around for any length of time. (There is no mechanism enforcing the storage of the data; such a mechanism cannot exist within a computer system.) “$10/GB for 200 years” are the words of a snake-oil salesperson – or, more charitably, somebody who hasn't properly read the marketing copy.

Re: I Miss RSS

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Post by ymolodtsov »

I've noticed that most major websites covering crypto (supposedly one of the most decentralized industries) don't have RSS at all or it just doesn't work. Looking at you, CoinDesk and The Block.

Re: I Miss RSS

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Post by ymolodtsov »

mro_name wrote: post #168
unqueued wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe that there was an agenda to kill RSS, very much like how the auto makers in the United States conspired to kill public transit. I don't buy any of the arguments not to implement it. I don't think it is too expensive or confusing. I think it is too empowering to users and inconvenient to marketers.

I bet it scared the shit out of Zuck and still does today. Add websub and few more and you have a social network, duh. Decentral. People owned.

That's not social network because there's no interaction between entities and most people wouldn't set up a blog.

Re: I Miss RSS

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Post by ymolodtsov »

karaterobot wrote: post #82

When I see articles like this, my reaction is always: when did RSS go away? I have close to 200 sites in my Feedly list, and I have trouble keeping up with all the articles I get from RSS every day. I think that what the author really means is that he misses RSS feeds from Twitter. I don't use Twitter, so from my perspective, RSS is as present and useful as it was 20 years ago.

Feedbin can capture items from Twitter feeds so that's covered for those who want this.

Re: I Miss RSS

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Post by ymolodtsov »

capybara_2020 wrote: post #194
karaterobot wrote: post #82

When I see articles like this, my reaction is always: when did RSS go away? I have close to 200 sites in my Feedly list, and I have trouble keeping up with all the articles I get from RSS every day. I think that what the author really means is that he misses RSS feeds from Twitter. I don't use Twitter, so from my perspective, RSS is as present and useful as it was 20 years ago.

Active RSS user here till Google killed Reader. I tried using Feedly last year. Added feeds and it was HORRIBLE experience. Not Feedly but the actual feeds. Some of them give you the title and then tell you to go to actual website to read the article. Others has a virtually non-existent summary. During RSS's heydays I remember being able to just see the summary and click on it and read the article right there and the…

Or you can use apps like Reeder who'd parse the original webpage for you with a single click.

Re: I Miss RSS

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Post by TekMol »

wizzwizz4 wrote: post #282
TekMol wrote: post #280

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where does the money to do Bitcoin mining come from? From the users who want to write to the Bitcoin blockchain. Same with the blockchains that support larger amounts of data. Whoever wants to store data pays for it. The specifics of how the storage of rare content is incentivized depends on the protocol. On Filecoin the publisher pays an ongoing fee. On Arweave it is paid upfront. The current estimate is that $10 wi…

I think you fundamentally misunderstand Bitcoin. People don't pay to store data on the blockchain; they pay to get their transactions mined. There's no guarantee that all the blocks of the Bitcoin blockchain will stick around forever, only that there'll be a consensus as to what the current block is, and what the states of all the wallets are (since that's the only information you need to validate a new block). Keepi…

You are confusing function and implementation. Technically "get their transactions mined" is having a piece of data written to the chain.

You are correct that in Bitcoin there is less incentive to store old blocks. But in chains crafted to store data for a long time there is.

I am stopping this discussion here because you are too negative (almost aggressive) for my liking.

But it will be an interesting thread to read again in 20 years when all this has played out.

Re: I Miss RSS

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Post by emodendroket »

DoingIsLearning wrote: post #255
emodendroket wrote: post #215

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Of course it's not "too expensive" or "too confusing" but the demand is practically nonexistent.

> but the demand is practically nonexistent. You mispelled "the way for me to monetize it is practically non-existent".

No I didn't. Go ahead and canvas 100 people and figure out how many of them even know what RSS is, let alone would like to use it.

Re: I Miss RSS

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Post by emodendroket »

prepend wrote: post #256
emodendroket wrote: post #215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course it's not "too expensive" or "too confusing" but the demand is practically nonexistent.

I think the demand is high but doesn’t show up in some dumb ways that people think represents demand. I get tons of requests in my web logs for my RSS feed. And I’m not a big site or anything, just have a scrub personal blog. So that’s lots of demand. I suspect that every platform owner sees their rss requests and sees it as high. So any claims that there’s no demand without clarifying that they don’t get http gets f…

Do you also conclude from your logs that there is a huge demand for regular users to log in to your Web server through ssh?

Re: I Miss RSS

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Post by taylorlunt »

m4xm4n wrote: post #108

as other's pointed out, RSS is still here if you want to use it. It's just not ubiquitous as it once was. IMO the big thing that killed RSS ubiquity was Google Chrome not having support for it natively. Before that, Firefox, Opera, Safari all had RSS as well-supported, central thing and I remember finding it super annoying that Chrome didn't have it when it launched. But I kept using Chrome for the same reasons every…

Vivaldi has support for RSS feeds now. Vivaldi has been getting better and better. I urge anyone who hasn't tried it in the last year or two to check it out. It's the new Opera.
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