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Norton 360 Now Comes with a Cryptominer

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Re: Norton 360 Now Comes with a Cryptominer

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I’m sorry but this is the funniest thing ever. Wasn’t it just a few years ago we were joking that AV software is the virus? How far have we come.

Perhaps for their next trick they can improve the customer experience in a related niche with bundled ransomware.

It looks like your Norton 360 subscription has not been renewed. The contents of your disk are therefore encrypted. In order to obtain the decryption key, please submit your subscription payment within the next seven days. For your convenience, we accept Visa and Mastercard -- unlike some of our competitors that require payments only in BTC!

Re: Norton 360 Now Comes with a Cryptominer

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post #6

This was already discussed on HN 7 months ago [0]. I'll repeat what I said about it last time: It's a mistake to focus on Norton in this context. The "correct" way of reading of this headline should be something like "reputable company puts an Ethereum wallet and mining software in the hands of millions of users". Now imagine if tomorrow Microsoft decided to add a crypto wallet and mining tools to Windows, or Google…

Well, formerly reputable company.

To some generous definition of reputable.

Re: Norton 360 Now Comes with a Cryptominer

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post #6

This was already discussed on HN 7 months ago [0]. I'll repeat what I said about it last time: It's a mistake to focus on Norton in this context. The "correct" way of reading of this headline should be something like "reputable company puts an Ethereum wallet and mining software in the hands of millions of users". Now imagine if tomorrow Microsoft decided to add a crypto wallet and mining tools to Windows, or Google…

> Now imagine if tomorrow Microsoft decided to add a crypto wallet and mining tools to Windows, or Google to Chrome. People keep saying this as if crypto isn't already mainstream. Exchanges have hundreds of millions of customers. A significant portion of the world has traded crypto. And 99.99% aren't doing anything else with it but speculate. It's not as if magically bundling a wallet on millions of machines will sud…

What exchange has 100 million users? Coinbase has 6 million users. Even the largest banks barely crack that count. For example, Bank of America only has 46 million customers.

Re: Norton 360 Now Comes with a Cryptominer

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post #21
post #5

I’m sorry but this is the funniest thing ever. Wasn’t it just a few years ago we were joking that AV software is the virus? How far have we come.

Perhaps for their next trick they can improve the customer experience in a related niche with bundled ransomware.

I could see an "encryption as a service" being added, where you can use it fine after you stop subscribing, but if you forget your info and want to recover/reset your password you need to pay ...

Re: Norton 360 Now Comes with a Cryptominer

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post #21
post #5

I’m sorry but this is the funniest thing ever. Wasn’t it just a few years ago we were joking that AV software is the virus? How far have we come.

Perhaps for their next trick they can improve the customer experience in a related niche with bundled ransomware.

Or maybe they can automatically pay your ransom using the derpcoin wallet that you've been paying for via your power bill.

Re: Norton 360 Now Comes with a Cryptominer

#49
post #8

I wonder if anybody has estimations of the contribution of anti-virus software to global warming. They run on almost all desktop computers, are generally large and bloated applications that consume tons of cpu for their continuous scans, I would not be too surprised if was far from negligible.

My CPU fan is screaming next to me right now because of my employer's overly paranoid, inefficient scanning shitware (yep I checked the list of processes). Not only is it warming the globe, it's warming this room. If I put my hands near the exhaust ports it'll warm those as well.

Re: Norton 360 Now Comes with a Cryptominer

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post #6

This was already discussed on HN 7 months ago [0]. I'll repeat what I said about it last time: It's a mistake to focus on Norton in this context. The "correct" way of reading of this headline should be something like "reputable company puts an Ethereum wallet and mining software in the hands of millions of users". Now imagine if tomorrow Microsoft decided to add a crypto wallet and mining tools to Windows, or Google…

> Now imagine if tomorrow Microsoft decided to add a crypto wallet and mining tools to Windows, or Google to Chrome. People keep saying this as if crypto isn't already mainstream. Exchanges have hundreds of millions of customers. A significant portion of the world has traded crypto. And 99.99% aren't doing anything else with it but speculate. It's not as if magically bundling a wallet on millions of machines will sud…

Brave is already doing the wallet part, analogous to "Google to Chrome". I wonder what proportion of users are actually using the wallet.
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