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Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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You say "over and over" but Omicron is the first variant that actually evades immunity (both natural and vaccine-induced) in a meaningful way. What we don't know is the level of immunity that an Omicron infection will provide. It could actually confer immunity to both itself and previous variants, which would effectively end the pandemic.

If something's a one a million event, happening billions of times per day, it'll happen pretty much constantly. This one, omicron, seems to mostly infect nasal passages and upper respiratory tract. The next, maybe after spending 2 years spreading across all the weasels of upper winchester county, may affect the lungs again. This is a lottery that's less fun to play... (edited for clarity)

Yeah, sure. Who knows what viruses could be spreading and mutating amongst those weasels. It's not like SARS-CoV-2 is the first, and it won't be the last. But when you say

> This is a lottery that's less fun to play

How exactly do you propose not playing? Lockdowns, social distancing, masking, etc. for life? We're eventually going to have to start treating Covid the same as we've always treated "the flu" and it definitely appears that once Omicron has run through the population, we'll have reached the time to do that.

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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post #267

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You're missing the fact you can catch it over and over. My wife is currently battling Omicron after we both had covid at the start of last year. Fully vaccinated and boosted three weeks ago, caught it anyway. With an infected population this massive mutations happen fast enough to cause a new wave before the old one burns out.

Are the unvaccinated catching it over and over again? That seems to me a vanishingly rare occurrence, admittedly within a rapidly shrinking set of people. It would be interesting to get some figures for this, hopefully without being lynched for asking the question.

From what I understand, Covid is endemic and we should expect new seasonal variations each year like the flu and common cold

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Dr. Katelyn Jetelina, MPH PhD, has a nice substack from perspective of an epidemiologist. Two notable recent Omicron posts on that substack: The potentially scary aspects: https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/state-of-affa... The potentially good news: https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/there-is-good... Obviously it is still early, but imo those 2 posts give a decent lay of the land.

Thanks for this, just in those two blog posts she answered many lingering questions I had about how omicron has been changing things. the SEOd google results are always a flood of incomplete or speculative information when I try to find answers to covid questions so this is a dream come true. If anyone has any other sources like this that can find and interpret good data for covid I'd love to hear about them.

I've also found this blog to be useful: https://thezvi.substack.com

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Hmmm... mild symptoms after being vaccinated. It's almost like the vaccine worked or something. How weird.

Plenty of unvaccinated (the vast majority, in fact) also experience mild symptoms. It's almost like you've got an unfalsifiable way to always say "it worked!"

It's almost like hospitalization statistics might just back this assertion up with actual irrefutable data.

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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I don't think it matters if omicron is ultimately worse or not, nobody cares anymore. I was out visiting a gym yesterday, in an area with sky rocketing cases, and no one was wearing masks. They talked multiple times about how much they cared about health, without even a hint of irony. I was initially put off, but realized that this is just the world we're in. In two weeks we'll find out if the calculus of lower death…

Nobody cared ever. At my school every year everyone takes off their masks and wears them improperly all the time. At the beach and mall every year it's still constantly full of hundreds of people with less than 1 meter space in between. At restaurants they don't do anything different than normal except put a mask on while ordering. They could just make something at home instead of being lazy and spreading COVID.

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Granted this still needs peer review...but you may want to look into this: https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-1139035/v1 I hope your recovery goes well and you truly have zero issues.

Remember all the articles claiming covid gave you brain damage? What ever happened to that?

There was some initial fear that anosmia might be related to brain damage (since basically ruled out I believe).

One of the common long covid symptoms is "brain fog" though. Which I _think_ is probably metabolic or circulatory or something, but definitely affects the brain whatever the actual cause is.

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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post #267

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Are the unvaccinated catching it over and over again? That seems to me a vanishingly rare occurrence, admittedly within a rapidly shrinking set of people. It would be interesting to get some figures for this, hopefully without being lynched for asking the question.

Personal anecdote, sample size of 1: I know an unvaccinated person who has had it 3 times. Not immunocompromised, otherwise healthy.

> sample size of 1

The only unvaccinated person you know who has had it, has had it three times?

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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post #236

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That's the point. It's often a mild cold for the vaccinated

It's mild for non-vaccinated South Africans as well. The same still applies as always: Vaccinate the risk groups.

Yet the unvaccinated are still overwhelmingly more likely to wind up requiring hospital care than the vaccinated.

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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post #267

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You're missing the fact you can catch it over and over. My wife is currently battling Omicron after we both had covid at the start of last year. Fully vaccinated and boosted three weeks ago, caught it anyway. With an infected population this massive mutations happen fast enough to cause a new wave before the old one burns out.

Are the unvaccinated catching it over and over again? That seems to me a vanishingly rare occurrence, admittedly within a rapidly shrinking set of people. It would be interesting to get some figures for this, hopefully without being lynched for asking the question.

There were many stats, showing most of people with omicron being vaccinated (above the vaccination rate). I never found the methodology behind it, because if they only tested travellers to eg. africa for omicron, then sure, probably all of them were vaccinated, if they did randomized testings, they you'd expect at worst (vaccines don't work) the same percentage un/vaccinated as in the general population, or at best, vastly more unvaccinated infected.

> hopefully without being lynched for asking the question

Somehow this is a sad reality of social media and the current 'situation'... asking anything is seen as "provocative", and there are many things happening that would require more rigid questioning and better answers.

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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post #166

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I have omicron right now (4-5 months after 2nd jab, so pretty much no effect from that) and it's just like a common cold (certainly wouldn't call it "battling omicron"). I have zero problems with getting this each year.

Congratulations. Both my wife and I (double vaxxed for 5 months, not boosted yet although were just about to do so) caught Omicron-flavoured Covid in the lead-up to Christmas and it wiped us out each for 2-3 days each, with a combination of fatigue, aches, fever, and violent coughing. Certainly worse than any cold or flu we've had up until that point. I still have a pretty nasty cough and a throat inflammation. Aren'…

> Aren't anecdotes fun?

Anecdotes was precisely the reason why I posted it. See whom I'm replying to.

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