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Re: Ask HN: Let's build an HN uBlacklist to improve our Google search results?

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Post by tagoregrtst » Thu, Jan 06, 2022, 1:40 PM UTC

approxim8ion wrote: post #274

tagoregrtst wrote: post #22

Im afraid this is potentially dangerously political. Are you only going to filter obvious spam and sites that republish other’s content, or are you going to block sites that are “harmful” or disseminate “disinformation”? Who will get to decide which media bubble I’m in?

That's hilarious. "dangerously political", as if search ranking is not already political. > Who will get to decide which media bubble I’m in? Whoever you rely on for your consumption needs. Your search engines, content aggregators, and news sites already do. None of us have much agency online and pretending like we are operating objectively and rationally is delusional.

I dont pretend. I know what a cesspool of petty control the internet is. I dont want it to get worse though

Re: Ask HN: Let's build an HN uBlacklist to improve our Google search results?

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Post by germandiago » Thu, Jan 06, 2022, 2:21 PM UTC

anigbrowl wrote: post #239

germandiago wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Is there a word for this tendency to say, "it's someone else's job" At the risk of sounding pretentious, I call it "socialist", since they spend their lives telling others what to do or what is good or not for the rest of us but they rarely do anything about it. Surprisingly, this is the group that is really worried about poverty and climate change and do as much as I do for it, with the difference that I do it by…

I think you should read some more socialist authors. Socialists are very into doing things but would also like to have access to the resources that facilitate getting things done, rather than being forced into the position of constantly petitioning bureaucrats. But socialists who run for office on a platform of opening up that bureaucracy to the public are often denounced as undermining the foundations of society, pr…

Socialism and scarcity go hand in hand no matter the intentions. It has happened, and it still happens partially.

A centralized economy is not flexible enough to supply the changing demand or to readjust.

The big leap forward was created, for example, to overtake England (I recall, correct me if I am wrong) in Steel production. In practice what happened is that people run desperate for their lives and died of hunger. Because they did not have the means to do it.

There are way more examples, being this one maybe the biggest disaster, but in essence there is an impossibility to calculate prices and gather information of good quality in a socialist system.

Re: Ask HN: Let's build an HN uBlacklist to improve our Google search results?

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Post by anigbrowl » Thu, Jan 06, 2022, 10:13 PM UTC

germandiago wrote: post #282

anigbrowl wrote: post #239

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you should read some more socialist authors. Socialists are very into doing things but would also like to have access to the resources that facilitate getting things done, rather than being forced into the position of constantly petitioning bureaucrats. But socialists who run for office on a platform of opening up that bureaucracy to the public are often denounced as undermining the foundations of society, pr…

Socialism and scarcity go hand in hand no matter the intentions. It has happened, and it still happens partially. A centralized economy is not flexible enough to supply the changing demand or to readjust. The big leap forward was created, for example, to overtake England (I recall, correct me if I am wrong) in Steel production. In practice what happened is that people run desperate for their lives and died of hunger.…

Socialism is not synonymous with central planning (example of a decentralized socialist concept below). I am not an advocate of the latter, though if I were I might point out that highly centralized Amazon seems to operate profitably and efficiently.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributism

Re: Ask HN: Let's build an HN uBlacklist to improve our Google search results?

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Post by germandiago » Sun, Jan 09, 2022, 3:40 PM UTC

anigbrowl wrote: post #283

germandiago wrote: post #282

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Socialism and scarcity go hand in hand no matter the intentions. It has happened, and it still happens partially. A centralized economy is not flexible enough to supply the changing demand or to readjust. The big leap forward was created, for example, to overtake England (I recall, correct me if I am wrong) in Steel production. In practice what happened is that people run desperate for their lives and died of hunger.…

Socialism is not synonymous with central planning (example of a decentralized socialist concept below). I am not an advocate of the latter, though if I were I might point out that highly centralized Amazon seems to operate profitably and efficiently. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributism

Amazon works with private capital and under market laws.

Not with public capital and under coercion, which is how a socialist system works.