Run FreshRSS on your own server, its good. Not perfect but very good.
I Miss RSS
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Re: I Miss RSS
#272I use RSS pretty heavily via Feedbin and Unread on iOS but I do sometimes wish I could view my feeds in a curated format akin to a magazine or newspaper rather than a flat undifferentiated list. There probably isn't a big enough market for it but I would love to see more experimentation in feed reader design instead of just cloning the UI of email clients.
Re: I Miss RSS
#273Earlier quoted context omitted.
I believe that there was an agenda to kill RSS, very much like how the auto makers in the United States conspired to kill public transit. I don't buy any of the arguments not to implement it. I don't think it is too expensive or confusing. I think it is too empowering to users and inconvenient to marketers.
I suppose you could call it an agenda, I think it’s just the consequence of every major social networking platform being incentivized to reduce outgoing links as much as possible to keep everyone in their walled garden of data collection and engagement. At some point we need to stop trying defend the idea that capitalism is good for tech.
> At some point we need to stop trying defend the idea that capitalism is good for tech.
Why would a state-owned social media platform be any better? I can think of numerous ways in which it would be dramatically worse. And if given the choice, do you really think people would choose Fedbook over Facebook?
Re: I Miss RSS
#274I use RSS pretty heavily via Feedbin and Unread on iOS but I do sometimes wish I could view my feeds in a curated format akin to a magazine or newspaper rather than a flat undifferentiated list. There probably isn't a big enough market for it but I would love to see more experimentation in feed reader design instead of just cloning the UI of email clients.
I remember a feedreaders for this. It might have been https://feedafever.com/ - but indeed that is dead. According to https://www.reddit.com/r/rss/comments/j7pcv0/any_modern_feed... fiery feeds took some of the concepts. The android client Palabre has a magazine layout, Inoreader as well (no idea how sorted it is).
Re: I Miss RSS
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Active RSS user here till Google killed Reader. I tried using Feedly last year. Added feeds and it was HORRIBLE experience. Not Feedly but the actual feeds. Some of them give you the title and then tell you to go to actual website to read the article. Others has a virtually non-existent summary. During RSS's heydays I remember being able to just see the summary and click on it and read the article right there and the…
I use https://weloverss.com/ as my Google Reader alternative. TheOldReader is also nice. I prefer the first due to its ui not being bloated - only thing I miss is timestamps.
TheOldReader.com was and remains my replacement for Google Reader. I have a paid account as a gesture of support although I use only a tiny fraction of the 500 subscriptions available. Their "add a subscription" utility works quite well on sites with no mention of a feed. And of course I discovered this post via RSS...
Re: I Miss RSS
#276RSS is not suited for large news networks or social medias; had they use RSS my reader would be jammed anyway. On the other hand, RSS is the best tool for blogging so as long as there are bloggers around there will be RSS.
The problem is not that RSS is declining, it is people don't write as much as before.
Re: I Miss RSS
#277Earlier quoted context omitted.
I suppose you could call it an agenda, I think it’s just the consequence of every major social networking platform being incentivized to reduce outgoing links as much as possible to keep everyone in their walled garden of data collection and engagement. At some point we need to stop trying defend the idea that capitalism is good for tech.
> At some point we need to stop trying defend the idea that capitalism is good for tech. Why would a state-owned social media platform be any better? I can think of numerous ways in which it would be dramatically worse. And if given the choice, do you really think people would choose Fedbook over Facebook?
Can you elaborate on your reasons why it would be a bad thing?
I think the argument for this is mainly that this would be funded by taxes, so it would not need to rely on advertisements and exhibit the predatory behaviours that Facebook and other social media do.
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> In a decentralized system, access to the data is inherent. Well, yeah – but we already have that. It's called the Fediverse. No blockchain in sight. (In fact, it predates Bitcoin.) > That is where the financial incentives come into play. Seeding will be economically incentivised. The margin for any given piece of content will be low, so there's an economic incentive to honour takedown requests, no matter how fraudu…
The margin for any given piece of content will be low Not when the financial incentive rises the rarer (less shared) a piece of content gets. This will be baked into the protocols. Arweave already has this.
That's not feasible either. Where does the money come from?
Re: I Miss RSS
#279as other's pointed out, RSS is still here if you want to use it. It's just not ubiquitous as it once was. IMO the big thing that killed RSS ubiquity was Google Chrome not having support for it natively. Before that, Firefox, Opera, Safari all had RSS as well-supported, central thing and I remember finding it super annoying that Chrome didn't have it when it launched. But I kept using Chrome for the same reasons every…
This is _exactly_ why I created Feeder, an RSS extension for Chrome. In 2010 I wanted to switch from Firefox but was hooked on live bookmarks. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/rss-feed-reader/pn...
I remember using this! I liked it and used it for a while! But not having it in the bookmarks bar, I kept forgetting about my feeds :/ and then I stopped installing it. I'm sorry :( Glad to hear it's still going strong though. Maybe I'll give it another shot!
Re: I Miss RSS
#280Earlier quoted context omitted.
The margin for any given piece of content will be low Not when the financial incentive rises the rarer (less shared) a piece of content gets. This will be baked into the protocols. Arweave already has this.
That's not feasible either. Where does the money come from?
Where does the money to do Bitcoin mining come from? From the users who want to write to the Bitcoin blockchain.
Same with the blockchains that support larger amounts of data. Whoever wants to store data pays for it.
The specifics of how the storage of rare content is incentivized depends on the protocol.
On Filecoin the publisher pays an ongoing fee.
On Arweave it is paid upfront. The current estimate is that $10 will store a GB for 200 years.
So doing a tweet on an Arweave powered social network would cost you something like $0.001 if you want your tweet to survive for 200 years.