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We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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When I see per month or per day stats I get suspicious. Let's say a month has 30 days -- 5 million views a months is 166,666k per day, 6944 per hour, 116 per minute, and ~1.92 per second. 1.92 qps. Of course it's not expensive, it's a tiny amount of traffic!

I know, but it is impressive that they are doing it for $400.

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Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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What is your strategy for dealing with server failure?

As long as you treat servers as cattle, you can use Hetzner's own load balancer service and then you don't have a SPOF that you manage yourself. Their LBs are advertised as redundant / fault tolerant.

I don't know if it is possible to treat "Serverbörse" servers as cattle. They are all different. I know that k8s and Docker Swarm could in theory balance load between different machines, but never tried it in practice. But I had in practice some weird glitches with different CPU/motherboards/memory.

Also, comment I was replying to mentioned a 48 euro budget, it is a price of a single server.

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is your strategy for dealing with server failure?

My app allows for "share nothing" architecture, basically using multiple DNS A records as load balancing. Currently it has 6 servers. Even if 5 of them would go down at the same time, the site would still work as intended (thought probably couldn't handle peak load with less than 3 or 4). If one of or two are down, nothing happens. Also completely reinstalling a server takes around an hour.

Yes, but comment I was replying to mentioned a 48 euro budget, it is a price of a single server.

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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This website is one of the fastest web pages I’ve ever used. Although it’s simple, it immediately loads pages and pages of images. Like in a flash. I’m on mobile web and it’s such a snappy experience.

Agreed it's impressively fast, but a lot of the speed is just due to heavily compressing the thumbnails.

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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I handle ~150TB and 26M page views for ~$500 by simply renting a few dedicated servers at hetzner. And if I didn't need quite a lot of processing power (more than average website), it would be much lower. I only need so many servers for the CPU power, not traffic.

Any experience with other providers of dedicated servers, e.g. Digitalocean?

Does DO even offer dedicated servers? I have used their vps in the past. It was ok, no issues, but more expensive than hetzners vps or dedicated for large traffic/cpu needs.

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Honestly you can go very far with unmettered data plans. We consume 2GB/S, maxed out, which ends up being 5184TB a month. We have millions on users a day, all on a streaming video platform. It cost less than $2K/Month. The cloud is crazy expensive. Private servers are beasts, and they are cheap. Of course, for this price, you don't have redundancy and horizontal scaling. You also don't have to maintain and debug a sy…

Thanks! Exactly that! I always tell that customers and their response is: -But google/facebook/amazon... -But uptime needs to be 99.999 -But everyone uses cloud Most businesses are not a trading-market, have less then 100 peoples (aka you are probably not another amazon), and no bonus using a cloud/kubernetes etc. But it's the same old story, in the 00's i used the ~same arguments against buying OracleDB ;)

any single one of those arguments is cargo-cult actually, isn't it?

All means, no end.

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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When I see per month or per day stats I get suspicious. Let's say a month has 30 days -- 5 million views a months is 166,666k per day, 6944 per hour, 116 per minute, and ~1.92 per second. 1.92 qps. Of course it's not expensive, it's a tiny amount of traffic!

I know, but it is impressive that they are doing it for $400.

No it’s not. 2 qps is pitiful. If anything $400 is crazy expensive. I guess most of it goes to traffic/storage costs, otherwise they are being ripped off.

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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post #235

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Thanks! Exactly that! I always tell that customers and their response is: -But google/facebook/amazon... -But uptime needs to be 99.999 -But everyone uses cloud Most businesses are not a trading-market, have less then 100 peoples (aka you are probably not another amazon), and no bonus using a cloud/kubernetes etc. But it's the same old story, in the 00's i used the ~same arguments against buying OracleDB ;)

any single one of those arguments is cargo-cult actually, isn't it? All means, no end.

Well most of them are Non IT businesses, so they just know what peers/family etc told them what todo (or what they do), then read some (oneside-)sponsored media and now they ~know whats best, it's Azure with WindowsServerDatacenter-edition, SQLServer-enterprise and McAffee antivirus ;) but who can be mad about it? It's just not their field of expertise or even interest.

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know, but it is impressive that they are doing it for $400.

No it’s not. 2 qps is pitiful. If anything $400 is crazy expensive. I guess most of it goes to traffic/storage costs, otherwise they are being ripped off.

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