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Re: Darling – Run Mac apps on Linux

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Post by anaganisk »

happymellon wrote: post #146
anaganisk wrote: post #145

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I had to compile a driver for my USB gaming keyboard, from a third party source, btw that keyboard worked seamlessly on my windows machine. Whats your point? I use linux exclusively for work, and windows exclusively for Personal use because many top games don’t even run on linux, yes I tried proton. And Adobe doesn’t even want to bless Linux, no Gimp is no where near to Photoshop.

What keyboard required a driver to be compiled? Also, software that doesn't run in wine these days is usually due to anti-piracy/anti-cheat as they try to dig into your operating system. Since these are anti-ethical to how Linux works, if you are fine running these sorts of things then why would you try and switch to Linux?

Redragon keyboard. And where I tried to imply im trying to switch to linux I don’t know, I balance my usage with linux and windows. If running major softwares used by lots of people is anti-ethical to linux, people must stop suggesting it as a daily driver for them. Speak to any gamer about if he wants anti-cheat or privacy, without hesitation they will say anti-cheat, so stop suggest proton as a magical replacement. If linux wants to be a daily driver, it needs to be as seamless as windows. I don’t want to spend dozens of hours on what config, or driver i have to tinker with to get some basic software or hardware support. Linux is not there yet. btw Nvidia graphics are proprietary and not exactly opensource, since its anti ethical to linux philosophy, shall we stop using graphic cards?

Re: Darling – Run Mac apps on Linux

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Post by KronisLV »

999900000999 wrote: post #108
KronisLV wrote: post #95

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> Windows is exceptional at gaming and game development ( really any C# dev). Visual Studio is the greatest IDE ever made. If I had to write C# in note pad I'd give up coding. Have you tried out Rider? https://www.jetbrains.com/rider/ It's one of the JetBrains commercial IDEs, but since i got the Ultimate package of their products for Java development and some other stuff, i also tried out Rider and found it to be pr…

I actually really like Android Studio, which is of course a Jet Brains product. Visual Studio is going to be the best supported IDE for C#. I'm fine with having a Windows PC for that. I still Dual boot on my old laptop

Ha, that's amusing, because at the same time i hate Android Studio with a passion - it seems like the worst JetBrains product by far, though maybe because Android isn't a particularly nice platform to develop for.

Admittedly, most of my complaints there would be about the different Android SDK versions and how sluggish and slow everything feels at times, as well as about how Android seems to have a stripped down JDK inside of it, which causes weirdness with certain libraries, as opposed to just having something like OpenJDK.

But hey, whatever works for you! I don't really think that there are that many (if any) alternatives for Android development, to be honest.

Re: Darling – Run Mac apps on Linux

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Post by happymellon »

anaganisk wrote: post #151
happymellon wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What keyboard required a driver to be compiled? Also, software that doesn't run in wine these days is usually due to anti-piracy/anti-cheat as they try to dig into your operating system. Since these are anti-ethical to how Linux works, if you are fine running these sorts of things then why would you try and switch to Linux?

Redragon keyboard. And where I tried to imply im trying to switch to linux I don’t know, I balance my usage with linux and windows. If running major softwares used by lots of people is anti-ethical to linux, people must stop suggesting it as a daily driver for them. Speak to any gamer about if he wants anti-cheat or privacy, without hesitation they will say anti-cheat, so stop suggest proton as a magical replacement.…

Nvidia isn't the only game in town, my AMD GPU works great. But also I didn't say that running closed source is against Linux. Trying to run software rootkits for other OS' is anti-ethical to Linux.

And whenever anyone asks if they should switch to Linux,if all they want it to be is a Windows emulator then I would recommend against it.

Re: Darling – Run Mac apps on Linux

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Post by cosmojg »

kreelman wrote: post #124
jedisct1 wrote: post #18

Zig has out of the box support for Darling, in order to directly run cross-compiled macOS apps on Linux.

In case no one knows what zig is.... https://ziglang.org/ From the link.... "Zig is a general-purpose programming language and toolchain for maintaining robust, optimal, and reusable software."

In short, it's kinda like Rust but for C instead of C++.

Re: Darling – Run Mac apps on Linux

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Post by pxc »

slim wrote: post #148
pxc wrote: post #130

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> Password management is THE feature that is painfully missing from Terminator, Tilix, etc. Never thought of incorporating this in the terminal emulator. I just use a command line client for my usual password manager. Any reason you can't do that?

I'm guessing your password manager is copying passwords to the clipboard. In that case iTerm2 seems more secure for console access auth

No, it outputs passwords on stdout. I use subshells and process substitution to direct the output

Re: Darling – Run Mac apps on Linux

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Post by pxc »

selfhoster11 wrote: post #134
pxc wrote: post #130

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> Password management is THE feature that is painfully missing from Terminator, Tilix, etc. Never thought of incorporating this in the terminal emulator. I just use a command line client for my usual password manager. Any reason you can't do that?

I want an integrated password workflow, and calling a command line password manager client is the last thing I want to have to remember about. Even if it saves a few keystrokes, it's one less thing to think about.

Isn't having the part that submits the password embedded in the same shell history as the command itself more integrated than having a tool you need to tell to input your passwords pseudo-interactively each time? Isn't it also fewer keystrokes?

Either way, if you prefer something more interactive and keybind-y, one portable alternative you can use regardless of terminal emulator without necessarily involving a clipboard is to plug the password manager CLI into a terminal multiplexer, e.g.:

https://github.com/BlueDrink9/tmux-passwords

https://github.com/rafi/tmux-pass

https://github.com/Alkindi42/tmux-bitwarden

(I understand that this is kind of the opposite of what the terminal emulators you listed are about, which is having the terminal emulator do the multiplexing and other integrations. But you can get the same stuff done and it's more portable.)

Re: Darling – Run Mac apps on Linux

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Post by DyslexicAtheist »

stupid question because I have not touched a Mac since 1999. What kind of apps are you using on Mac that if you were forced to switch to Linux you feel that you can't live without?

the appeal back then (and from I hear people say until today) was always how everything is neatly integrated. a coherent system from the hardware all the way up the stack. not sure if that is overselling it but at least that's how I understand is what people are happy to pay for.

Re: Darling – Run Mac apps on Linux

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Post by linkandzelda »

DyslexicAtheist wrote: post #157

stupid question because I have not touched a Mac since 1999. What kind of apps are you using on Mac that if you were forced to switch to Linux you feel that you can't live without? the appeal back then (and from I hear people say until today) was always how everything is neatly integrated. a coherent system from the hardware all the way up the stack. not sure if that is overselling it but at least that's how I unders…

I was an Apple user since 2008 until 2018, when I finally switched to Linux full time. At the time of my first switch attempt it was 2014, but I didn't realise how finely ingrained Apple's OSX workflow was in my mind. I had no problem finding replacement apps, but what was hard was using them and trying to build a comfy desktop environment. Essentially it took me from 2014 til 2018 to transition from OSX specific software to fully open source CLI apps. These days I run Arch and the only GUI app is Chromium. Not counting my i3wm and the lemon bar. It was a fun journey with with some challenging moments!

Re: Darling – Run Mac apps on Linux

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Post by u-rate »

DyslexicAtheist wrote: post #157

stupid question because I have not touched a Mac since 1999. What kind of apps are you using on Mac that if you were forced to switch to Linux you feel that you can't live without? the appeal back then (and from I hear people say until today) was always how everything is neatly integrated. a coherent system from the hardware all the way up the stack. not sure if that is overselling it but at least that's how I unders…

Any creative tool (audio, video, picture), that doesn’t randomly crash after 30 minutes

Re: Darling – Run Mac apps on Linux

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Post by gurkendoktor »

DyslexicAtheist wrote: post #157

stupid question because I have not touched a Mac since 1999. What kind of apps are you using on Mac that if you were forced to switch to Linux you feel that you can't live without? the appeal back then (and from I hear people say until today) was always how everything is neatly integrated. a coherent system from the hardware all the way up the stack. not sure if that is overselling it but at least that's how I unders…

For me: Git Tower, MoneyMoney (German banking app, absolutely fantastic), Fantastical, to some degree also OmniFocus.

Plus first-party apps like Safari with its fluid trackpad gestures, Photos with its iCloud integration, and of course Xcode, because being able to build/debug things for macOS/iOS is a bonus feature I can offer as a developer.

The list is a lot shorter than 10 or 15 years ago. Most new apps that come out are Electron, but even then there's sometimes no Linux port (Trello, WhatsApp).

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