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Re: Ask HN: Let's build an HN uBlacklist to improve our Google search results?

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Post by nixcraft »

endisneigh wrote: post #198
nixcraft wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

May I know why my domain (cyberciti.biz) was added to that list? I created my site back in 2000, and there was no StackOverflow or anything. So much for creating original content and then getting labelled as a spammer. In fact, some of the top answers on StackOverflow were copied from my work without giving any credit to me. Some people do give credit tho. But, go ahead block a site that actual humans maintain over 2…

Your comment is exactly why spam prevention is difficult. Sorry for that.

Yes, imagine if this blocklist becomes mainstream and used by major other adblockers or extensions? Then, there is no central place where one man's project can ask to remove my domain, and it will vanish. I often read on HN how much the web is centralized, and then we come across resources that kill independent blog/sites because of an error on the list maintainers part.

Re: Ask HN: Let's build an HN uBlacklist to improve our Google search results?

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Post by nixcraft »

ffhhj wrote: post #230
nixcraft wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

May I know why my domain (cyberciti.biz) was added to that list? I created my site back in 2000, and there was no StackOverflow or anything. So much for creating original content and then getting labelled as a spammer. In fact, some of the top answers on StackOverflow were copied from my work without giving any credit to me. Some people do give credit tho. But, go ahead block a site that actual humans maintain over 2…

> some of the top answers on StackOverflow were copied from my work without giving any credit to me That's really frustrating. I'm building a faster search engine for programming queries and just added your site cyberciti.biz as a recommended and curated source of Unix/Linux material. Hope more devs get aware of your work and you (and your collaborators) receive the credits deserved. Thanks for your work of many year…

Thank you. Do ping me when your work is ready. I will share it on Twitter :)

Re: Ask HN: Let's build an HN uBlacklist to improve our Google search results?

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Post by burnished »

nixcraft wrote: post #157
burnished wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At first scan your site looks like one of those automated scrape and republish sites. I'm curious what got you on that blacklist (misspelling? bad first impression? automated tool gone awry?) though. Glad you said something though, I wouldn't have looked at it twice without a human attestation.

I kept it simple on purpose. As a result, it loads faster on both desktop and mobile and passes web.dev PageSpeed insight test too.

Yep, and it doesn't break if you have javascript disabled. Good work.

That doesn't really intersect with my observation in any way though. As a stranger I don't see your intent when I see your website, I just see your website.

Re: Ask HN: Let's build an HN uBlacklist to improve our Google search results?

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Post by approxim8ion »

tagoregrtst wrote: post #22

Im afraid this is potentially dangerously political. Are you only going to filter obvious spam and sites that republish other’s content, or are you going to block sites that are “harmful” or disseminate “disinformation”? Who will get to decide which media bubble I’m in?

That's hilarious.

"dangerously political", as if search ranking is not already political.

> Who will get to decide which media bubble I’m in?

Whoever you rely on for your consumption needs. Your search engines, content aggregators, and news sites already do. None of us have much agency online and pretending like we are operating objectively and rationally is delusional.

Re: Ask HN: Let's build an HN uBlacklist to improve our Google search results?

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Post by taxyz23 »

zxexz wrote: post #132
nixcraft wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

May I know why my domain (cyberciti.biz) was added to that list? I created my site back in 2000, and there was no StackOverflow or anything. So much for creating original content and then getting labelled as a spammer. In fact, some of the top answers on StackOverflow were copied from my work without giving any credit to me. Some people do give credit tho. But, go ahead block a site that actual humans maintain over 2…

cyberciti.biz is one of the few sites that come up in Google search results for anything code/linux related that has valuable content. I do wonder why someone would block it.

I agree. Valuable site and nixcraft adds a ton of value to the linux community. Thank you nixcraft!

Re: Ask HN: Let's build an HN uBlacklist to improve our Google search results?

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Post by execat »

rolisz wrote: post #41

Why not use another search engine, such as Kagi, which has built-in support for this? At least for the programming niche, Kagi has worked really great for me for a month now.

Is their plan to have the login screen on landing or is it just a beta thing?

If I have to log in to an account only to search, that'd be a no-go for me.

Re: Ask HN: Let's build an HN uBlacklist to improve our Google search results?

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Post by [deleted] »

endisneigh wrote: post #174
tyingq wrote: post #55

>become worse lately thanks to all those StackOverflow and Github clones A google search showing some of these leech type sites: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22code+that+protects+users+... For me, "farath.com" is outranking stackoverflow.

This is a great example of why "Google sucks!!11" is mainly FUD. Let's say you're looking for the SO link, which is #2 for Google. Let's compare: Google ("code that protects users from accidentally invoking the script when they didn't intend to") Link: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22code+that+protects+users+... SO - #2 Bing ("code that protects users from accidentally invoking the script when they didn't intend t…

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Re: Ask HN: Let's build an HN uBlacklist to improve our Google search results?

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Post by code2life »

endisneigh wrote: post #174
tyingq wrote: post #55

>become worse lately thanks to all those StackOverflow and Github clones A google search showing some of these leech type sites: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22code+that+protects+users+... For me, "farath.com" is outranking stackoverflow.

This is a great example of why "Google sucks!!11" is mainly FUD. Let's say you're looking for the SO link, which is #2 for Google. Let's compare: Google ("code that protects users from accidentally invoking the script when they didn't intend to") Link: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22code+that+protects+users+... SO - #2 Bing ("code that protects users from accidentally invoking the script when they didn't intend t…

In my experience, the you.com apps and overall search results aren't affected by SEO the same way that some of the other engines are, which is why I think their results work for me

Re: Ask HN: Let's build an HN uBlacklist to improve our Google search results?

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Post by PinkSheep »

nixcraft wrote: post #122
jhchabran wrote: post #5

That's an ambitious goal, I'm not sure to see how that would be maintainable on the long run. On a much smaller scale, if anyone is interested, I maintain a black list focused on those code snippet content farms that gets in the way when you're searching for some error message or particular function here https://github.com/jhchabran/code-search-blacklist .

May I know why my domain (cyberciti.biz) was added to that list? I created my site back in 2000, and there was no StackOverflow or anything. So much for creating original content and then getting labelled as a spammer. In fact, some of the top answers on StackOverflow were copied from my work without giving any credit to me. Some people do give credit tho. But, go ahead block a site that actual humans maintain over 2…

As a user I think I've put your website on my mental "avoid it" list for its design. I've opened a page now and I feel like I'm instantly in a tunnel vision mode. For UX: it's not a pleasure to scroll up & down; maybe there's also a psychological element about the main content area being so slim in width.

The other comment made me remember there was captcha too, right? I had been using my own rented server as a VPN for all my internet access. But I'd have never blocked it for a public list - I've read the 'about me' page.

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