Live data from Hacker News

How to design a house to last 1000 years

constructionphysics.substack.com

1–10 of 402 posts

Re: How to design a house to last 1000 years

#2
This might work in a universe with spherical cows but they seem to hand wave away all human elements. My eyes rolled a loop in my head when they advised an urban location. That's a great way to ensure it gets demolished when a marginally better use for the land comes along.

If it were me I'd just build some monstrosity of a palace in somewhere that nobody wants such a thing and I'd build it out of stuff that's highly inefficient to repurpose, not steel beams. The best way to keep something around is to make its continued use better than any other option so that people take care of it and give it the capacity to withstand a couple generations of neglect without falling in on itself. A castle (metaphorical or literal) on some cheap land along the highway in North Dakota should suffice.

Re: How to design a house to last 1000 years

#4
Stainless steel girders? I see this is a no costs spared build.

At one point the author even considered Inconel girders, but practical considerations on builder experience with exotic alloys made that a bridge too far.

Even so he is planning to have builders come in an brick up the entire frame before the rest of the house is built.

I did like that he realized one of the most important aspects of keeping a house around is to make people want to keep it around. Make sure it doesn't age poorly because then even if the structure is sound people will tear it down because "it is an eyesore".

Re: How to design a house to last 1000 years

#5

This might work in a universe with spherical cows but they seem to hand wave away all human elements. My eyes rolled a loop in my head when they advised an urban location. That's a great way to ensure it gets demolished when a marginally better use for the land comes along. If it were me I'd just build some monstrosity of a palace in somewhere that nobody wants such a thing and I'd build it out of stuff that's highly…

I would expect a southwest desert to be better than North Dakota. Fewer freeze/thaw cycles while wet, and milder weather.

But yes.

Re: How to design a house to last 1000 years

#6
post #4

Stainless steel girders? I see this is a no costs spared build. At one point the author even considered Inconel girders, but practical considerations on builder experience with exotic alloys made that a bridge too far. Even so he is planning to have builders come in an brick up the entire frame before the rest of the house is built. I did like that he realized one of the most important aspects of keeping a house arou…

"Eyesore" also depends on the community. Lots of places will keep an eyesore place gladly because they can't infringe on the property owners rights. Many places in Asia are like this in general.

Re: How to design a house to last 1000 years

#7

This might work in a universe with spherical cows but they seem to hand wave away all human elements. My eyes rolled a loop in my head when they advised an urban location. That's a great way to ensure it gets demolished when a marginally better use for the land comes along. If it were me I'd just build some monstrosity of a palace in somewhere that nobody wants such a thing and I'd build it out of stuff that's highly…

I would expect a southwest desert to be better than North Dakota. Fewer freeze/thaw cycles while wet, and milder weather. But yes.

[deleted]

Re: How to design a house to last 1000 years

#8
This is interesting. About to do a major reno on an old home (early 1900s) and definitely had questions about making upgrades that would last a long time. One of the greenest things that you can do to a home is not build a new one as I understand it. Another one would be to build it so it lasts ... not like this throwaway society we live in. That said I don't think I can do steel girders to extend the life of the house -- that would be tough ask. Any thoughts anyone? Thanks.

Other green benefits -- electrify as much as reasonable, thermal regulate, insulate etc.

Re: How to design a house to last 1000 years

#10
You should still use reinforcement in the concrete: Use basalt rebar instead of steel; it will not corrode. Use a nylon fiber in the mix to protect against impact and spalling from fire. Use 5000 psi concrete instead of 2500. This is much stronger and will be less likely to break down under any environment. Use a vapor barrier underneath to help prevent moisture and gas from coming up into the house. Put the foundation on 8 to 10 inches of 1" rock. This will help protect against soil expansion and allow water to quickly flow underneath or out of underneath the house. It will also prevent critters from digging into any possible underground utilities, etc. Any cracks after the concrete sets, fill and then seal the entire pad. Be sure to keep the concrete wet and covered for 30 days to aid in maximum strength.

Instead of a steel frame, use insulated concrete forms, again using basalt rebar. This makes a concrete walled house. Use stainless steel trusses (or onsite galvanized steel) for the roof or build a concrete roof with similar construction methods as the insulated concrete forms.

The siding of the house should be concrete board or other non combustible material (brick or stone)..or both where it makes sense. But be careful on the mortar used..seal it at least if you expose any of it to the weather.

Make sure the eaves are at least two feet out and the eaves over doors more than that. This keeps water away from those areas and the house as a whole.

Make sure you have gutters...good ones.

Make sure your land around the house moves water around it - even in flash flood events.

Have real shutters for your windows.

Where it makes sense, especially those areas exposed to weather, do not use wood.

Instead of slate..use aluminum shingles.

Forget the fireplace...too many potential issues with fire, leaking, etc. They are hard to build for 20 years let alone 1000.

Use Fiberglass windows. The best ones will outlast any hardwood.

Post reply on HN