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Tauri – Electron alternative written in Rust

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Re: Tauri – Electron alternative written in Rust

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Post by fastball »

jokoon wrote: post #94

I have a hard time understanding why platforms like electron are so popular. The predictions from Gary Bernhardt seem to really be true, in the future everything will be javascript. I wonder if somebody actually tried to make an OS that only has a browser, that's what Chrome OS actually is, after all.

We built our product for the web. People wanted our product as a desktop app. So we wrapped it in Electron and now we have 3 desktop apps. People wanted our product as a mobile app. So we wrapped it in Capacitor and now we have two mobile apps.

There are just two of us building this product.

Re: Tauri – Electron alternative written in Rust

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Post by mtsr »

torginus wrote: post #187

What's the advantage of this? There are tons of projects other than Electron, that wrap a browser renderer, like CEF, NW.js etc. As I understand, the heavy resource use of these apps is due to Chrome, replacing the thin OS shim with something, hardly curbs the resource usage.

The big difference is this doesn’t run it’s own instance of Chrome, but runs on the OS native browser.

Re: Tauri – Electron alternative written in Rust

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Post by mehdix »

mysterydip wrote: post #104
fabiospampinato wrote: post #90

One very important thing I'd like to highlight: using one shared browser instance rather than N is not gonna make your apps that consume 1GB+ of memory suddenly consume much less than that, the problem for those apps is the code they run, it's not the language, it's not the platform, it's the badly written code, and Tauri doesn't change that.

Back in the day people coded lightweight because it wouldn't run otherwise, and speed mattered in single core sub-GHz CPUs. We don't have that same constraint today, how do we get people to write more efficient code?

Environment should be the new constraint. Inefficient apps collectively consume energy that otherwise would have been saved and therefore contribute to global warming.

Re: Tauri – Electron alternative written in Rust

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Post by kitsunesoba »

kvark wrote: post #163
kitsunesoba wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Operating systems should being pointing fingers at egregiously heavy apps. It’s not perfect but the battery menu on macOS pointing out apps consuming a lot of energy has inspired a good amount of efficiency work for macOS ports of things because users see it and gripe at developers about it. I would like to see that taken a step further. Something like the system showing a notification banner saying something to the…

Power optimization doesn’t improve memory footprint. In fact, it can do the opposite and increase memory allocation. Think tradeoffs between memory and processing, e.g. caching of intermediate results.

Sure, but that’s just a single facet of optimization, and I think it could be argued that just requiring developers to take a closer look at their usage could in many cases free up enough memory to cancel out intentional increases memory usage, meaning in many cases memory usage is nearly unchanged while other facets of performance are improved. It’s still an overall win.

Re: Tauri – Electron alternative written in Rust

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Post by nim2020 »

schickling wrote: post #157
rattlesnakedave wrote: post #126

This is a really horrible project and should be avoided IMO. Not only are the instructions on their website incorrect for building & installation on M1 Macs, you cannot run the app without it crashing on M1. https://github.com/tauri-apps/tauri/issues/2421 https://github.com/tauri-apps/tauri/issues/2934 These things are not a big deal! Bugs happen. I would be more than happy to contribute and try to help fix these thi…

Hi folks, I'm the user from the screenshot above (thanks for sharing this btw). I have to say, this was a quite unpleasant and unwelcoming interaction as my question was genuine and I indeed did do some extensive research before asking this question in Discord. As a devtools founder myself (co-founded www.prisma.io) I highly value welcoming and helpful communities and offered my help to the people behind the Tauri pr…

Hi Schickling.

Denjell here from the founding team of Tauri. Thanks for reaching out directly, and I just wanted to state for the HN record, that we are going to be having a board discussion surrounding the unpleasant event raised here, and will make a public statement very soon.

That said, on a personal note, I am quite sorry this happened. We do support and uphold our Code of Conduct, and this is not an appropriate response and the community tone we want to nurture.

Re: Tauri – Electron alternative written in Rust

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Post by maxbond »

Emanation wrote: post #178
polycaster wrote: post #176

Is "written in Rust" a registered trademark already?

They call it rust, because everything written in it becomes derelict after 180days of its first 3 'written in rust' posts

Let's put this meme to bed. Tauri has been developed for two years now. People don't just write Rust because it's trendy. If you want to throw stones at Rust, there are many more substantial criticisms to make.

Our compilation times are long.

Those sweet, ergonomic macro interfaces are only possible because of proc-macro dark magic that tends to be very verbose and special case-y.

There's no spec.

Unsafe is overused.

Et cetera.

Re: Tauri – Electron alternative written in Rust

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Post by HatchedLake721 »

pjerem wrote: post #124
heurisko wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can remember using 56k dialup and downloading ISOs around 650MB. A 60MB download would have been fine. Indeed, with the annoying habit of proprietary software to install "Download managers" that download the actual software, I would be happy for just a 60MB runtime for the actual program itself.

I'm not sure you really remember. With 56k dialup, downloading 650MB could easily take days. Downloading 1MB could have taken 3 to 4 minutes. 60MB, even today, is really big when you have to download it while boarding a train or with poor connectivity (even in rich countries, just being in a metallic building is enough for 60MB to be painful to download.

You download desktop apps while boarding a train?
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