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Tauri – Electron alternative written in Rust

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Re: Tauri – Electron alternative written in Rust

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Post by paavohtl »

simion314 wrote: post #64
MathCodeLove wrote: post #28

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HTML and CSS, while not perfect, are still the best tools I've found to create a pleasant UI. Other libraries like Qt do work , but it's more difficult to get things looking exactly how you want them to look.

CSS has too much old crap, how many ways you can center a thing? How many ways you can horizontal align some stuff? There should be only 1 way and that way should not have hacks like use negative margins. What a Qt or other similar frameworks gives you is consistency, all components in all apps will look and work the same (with the exception of customized ones). This means you can focus on UX and not on bad design. M…

> There should be only 1 way and that way should not have hacks like use negative margins.

There is: flexbox and grid. All kinds of alignment can be done with basically a one-liner in both layout systems, without any hacks.

Re: Tauri – Electron alternative written in Rust

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Post by heurisko »

rebolek wrote: post #65
wokwokwok wrote: post #44

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I mean… fair, but is the 60MB runtime the issue? I really don’t care if my hello world UI is 60MB to download , I care that it consumes 1 GB of my precious ram to run. How is running js with a rust backend any better than running js with a C++ backend? I guess your “backend” is rust here, which is nice (because I Ie. really, do you get meaningful benefits from using this over say, literally just using https://github.…

> I really don’t care if my hello world UI is 60MB to download lot of people cares, they may have a slow connection, must pay per MB and so on. There is no reason why hello world UI should be 60MB.

I can remember using 56k dialup and downloading ISOs around 650MB.

A 60MB download would have been fine.

Indeed, with the annoying habit of proprietary software to install "Download managers" that download the actual software, I would be happy for just a 60MB runtime for the actual program itself.

Re: Tauri – Electron alternative written in Rust

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Post by jokoon »

I have a hard time understanding why platforms like electron are so popular.

The predictions from Gary Bernhardt seem to really be true, in the future everything will be javascript.

I wonder if somebody actually tried to make an OS that only has a browser, that's what Chrome OS actually is, after all.

Re: Tauri – Electron alternative written in Rust

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Post by hkalbasi »

wokwokwok wrote: post #44
krapp wrote: post #6

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"cross-platform compatibility" isn't guaranteed on the web either, yet somehow "cross-platform compatible" websites exist. It isn't a problem that's so difficult it requires wrapping a 60Mb runtime around every individual app instance.

I mean… fair, but is the 60MB runtime the issue? I really don’t care if my hello world UI is 60MB to download , I care that it consumes 1 GB of my precious ram to run. How is running js with a rust backend any better than running js with a C++ backend? I guess your “backend” is rust here, which is nice (because I Ie. really, do you get meaningful benefits from using this over say, literally just using https://github.…

Per https://github.com/Fournux/tauri-vs-electron it uses just 20 MB of ram on linux.

Why? I guess because webkit-gtk is less ram hungry than blink.

Re: Tauri – Electron alternative written in Rust

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Post by parhamn »

fabiospampinato wrote: post #90

One very important thing I'd like to highlight: using one shared browser instance rather than N is not gonna make your apps that consume 1GB+ of memory suddenly consume much less than that, the problem for those apps is the code they run, it's not the language, it's not the platform, it's the badly written code, and Tauri doesn't change that.

This is a great point. I think last I measured a basic electron browser/webview is about ~20-36mb which is not far from an about:blank chrome tab. The 300mb+ memory usage you see is mostly the javascript from the apps themselves.

Either way, I'm glad more people are in the space!

Re: Tauri – Electron alternative written in Rust

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Post by surajs »

jokoon wrote: post #94

I have a hard time understanding why platforms like electron are so popular. The predictions from Gary Bernhardt seem to really be true, in the future everything will be javascript. I wonder if somebody actually tried to make an OS that only has a browser, that's what Chrome OS actually is, after all.

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Re: Tauri – Electron alternative written in Rust

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Post by nine_k »

fabiospampinato wrote: post #85
dmitryminkovsky wrote: post #71

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I guess but compatibility issues on the web, while they existe, are pretty discrete these days. Browser monoculture is exceedingly worse, both practically and from a business perspective, in my opinion.

I don't know about that, one data point: an ES2018 feature, regex lookarounds, is still not implemented in Safari. And the JS engine is the thing that's the most compatible across browsers, nowhere near the level of incompatibility of the rendering engine for example.

Ignore stuff that was added to HTML, CSS, and JS for last 4-5 years. You'll still have a pretty solid? GUI platform, likely more capable and accessible than Qt or GTK or AWT.

With the usual compiler / transpiler stack, you'll have a nice, fast-to-market, non-esoteric development environment. All without the need to ship 100MB binaries.

Re: Tauri – Electron alternative written in Rust

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Post by thehappypm »

fiatjaf wrote: post #88
asimpletune wrote: post #70

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Can you explain more the part about native apps being hard to make? I mean, I can open Xcode, start a new project, hit run, and there's an app ready to go, with a simulator and everything. It has API's that allow safe access to OS-level resources. It has powerful multi-threading, built-in views that I can reuse (like collections), stack based browsing is native, etc... Also, the client is not broken by default (I.e.…

I agree. Writing native apps is very easy once you get mildly used to any framework for writing native apps. The "web" is just another framework, a very popular one, but also one that is very bloated and hard-to-use.

For one, you need Xcode, which means you need specific hardware.

Re: Tauri – Electron alternative written in Rust

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Post by dmingod666 »

forgotmyoldacc wrote: post #3

If anyone wants to know how it works: > [leverages] WebKit on macOS, WebView2 on Windows and WebKitGTK on Linux. So cross-platform compatibility isn't guaranteed, unlike Electron. https://github.com/tauri-apps/tauri

Saw a comparison, Electron app size of 138MB Vs Tauri in single digit MB is a big difference though.
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