Aaand still bundling what amounts to an entire web browser just to do what one has always been able do in Qt/GTK/whateverTK. Sad.
Tauri – Electron alternative written in Rust
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Re: Tauri – Electron alternative written in Rust
#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
"cross-platform compatibility" isn't guaranteed on the web either, yet somehow "cross-platform compatible" websites exist. It isn't a problem that's so difficult it requires wrapping a 60Mb runtime around every individual app instance.
Everyone is basically using Chrome or Safari nowadays - so WebKit. Very little incompatibilities to consider compared to writing something that works on different WebView implementations
WebKit, WebKitGTK and WebView2 are all webkit-based too currently. WebView2 was always chromium-based afaict, I think the old trident-based edge had a separate control.
Also, on the web, firefox still exists.
Re: Tauri – Electron alternative written in Rust
#13Lots of their roadmap for 2021 is still undone. Something be to worry about?
The repository seems very active so I wouldn't worry too much
Re: Tauri – Electron alternative written in Rust
#14Aaand still bundling what amounts to an entire web browser just to do what one has always been able do in Qt/GTK/whateverTK. Sad.
It doesn't bundle it though, it uses the one that comes by default on the OS. Which is already a huge improvement, because it should, in theory, be able to share resources across different apps (e.g. the DLL should only be loaded once in physical memory, etc...).
Re: Tauri – Electron alternative written in Rust
#15If anyone wants to know how it works: > [leverages] WebKit on macOS, WebView2 on Windows and WebKitGTK on Linux. So cross-platform compatibility isn't guaranteed, unlike Electron. https://github.com/tauri-apps/tauri
"cross-platform compatibility" isn't guaranteed on the web either, yet somehow "cross-platform compatible" websites exist. It isn't a problem that's so difficult it requires wrapping a 60Mb runtime around every individual app instance.
I’ve always felt that engine inconsistencies in electron-alikes are a bit overblown, particularly now with the old IE-based webview out of the picture (modern Windows uses a Blink-based webview). They’re all capable of the basics, and the greatest inconsistencies will be found in newer features. Stick to a slightly older well supported set of features and you’ll be fine.
There are some significant differences between engines when it comes to things like local file access, but that’s what the native component of electron/tauri/etc is there for.
Re: Tauri – Electron alternative written in Rust
#16I'm using electron for https://www.monsterwriter.app/ and i'm looking for a lightweight alternative since a while. This seems to be a good fit. I guess when you can reduce the api calls to bindings (accessing filesystem, network, etc.) cross platform compatibility should not be a problem.
I would be curious if anybody onboarded an Tauri application into the Mac App Store and if it builds for M1?
Re: Tauri – Electron alternative written in Rust
#17Imagine trying to use app built with this in five to ten years that not recently updated or maintained, very scary.
Re: Tauri – Electron alternative written in Rust
#18If anyone wants to know how it works: > [leverages] WebKit on macOS, WebView2 on Windows and WebKitGTK on Linux. So cross-platform compatibility isn't guaranteed, unlike Electron. https://github.com/tauri-apps/tauri
It would be better to use Rust+Servo (no JS, or at least optional) IMO
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At this point why not focus on some actual GUI toolokit, like write a Qt clone in Rust, for real world apps we don't need all the CSS and HTML crap, you need simple layout, GUI components and an option WebView you can embed in the app if needed. Probably there is no commercial interest to pay professional developers with real experience to implement this.
Re: Tauri – Electron alternative written in Rust
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
"cross-platform compatibility" isn't guaranteed on the web either, yet somehow "cross-platform compatible" websites exist. It isn't a problem that's so difficult it requires wrapping a 60Mb runtime around every individual app instance.
Everyone is basically using Chrome or Safari nowadays - so WebKit. Very little incompatibilities to consider compared to writing something that works on different WebView implementations
Sorry, I am using Firefox.
Re: Tauri – Electron alternative written in Rust
#20At https://www.waiterio.com we use plain webviews for Android, iOS and macOS without any framework and Electron for Windows and Linux.
The problem with frameworks is that once a year Apple make a change to their signature and it can break the framework for several weeks/months before a fix/hack around is found.
By using native webviews you can quickly implement the change needed and get back online in days.