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Re: Who is hiring AND offers 4+ weeks of vacation?

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This will be the shortest thread in HN history... On serious note, I'm really not aware of a single one. I heard some

As a European I find that really scary. Its not as if you will be on your deathbed regretting that you had never spent more time working.

Re: Who is hiring AND offers 4+ weeks of vacation?

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To be honest going into job interviews with a sense of entitlement about paid vacation time would probably reflect poorly with potential employers. We offer 3 weeks (fairly generous for Canada), but I would be extremely put off by a candidate who wanted to discuss vacation time first and foremost.

I would say that's extremely common in Canada. Not sure what's worse, having a sense of entitlement as an employee, or thinking what you offer is above average as an employer.

Snarkiness aside..I have mixed feelings about your first point. Entitlement sucks, 100% agree with you there. Flip side, vacation is awesome on so many levels, I feel that there genuinely should be a push for more vacation time.

Re: Who is hiring AND offers 4+ weeks of vacation?

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This will be the shortest thread in HN history... On serious note, I'm really not aware of a single one. I heard some

A similar point: I've never actually met someone who has 4 weeks of vacation to actually use all 4. Generally, when you work up to the point at a BigCo where you can command a larger vacation, it's hard to remove yourself from the day-to-day practices of work. Plus, America has an embedded culture of trying to "outwork the competition" in everything we do, from sports, to academics, to the workplace. It stems from th…

From what I understand, a company which allows employees to accumulate large pools of timeoff tend to have very unpleasant liabilities on their balance sheet. It is, I believe, a very serious liability (regardless of where you live, all places have very strict rules about it).

It's a lot like reward points. The initial programs didn't have expiry...after years, auditors warned them that they had billions in liabilities in unclaimed points.

In my experience, any company that gets a serious CFO or some outside accounting/auditing, is going to rectify their vacation problem pretty quickly

Re: Who is hiring AND offers 4+ weeks of vacation?

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Mozilla Corporation. We're global, we're hiring, we offer four weeks PTO plus your birthday. http://www.mozilla.org/careers

How does someone without any experience with web technologies, but with several years of experience with embedded systems programming, transition to a position that requires the array of skills listed in those job postings? This isn't directed only at mozilla, but all job postings that look for candidates with a very specific skill set.

Re: Who is hiring AND offers 4+ weeks of vacation?

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Mozilla Corporation. We're global, we're hiring, we offer four weeks PTO plus your birthday. http://www.mozilla.org/careers

How does someone without any experience with web technologies, but with several years of experience with embedded systems programming, transition to a position that requires the array of skills listed in those job postings? This isn't directed only at mozilla, but all job postings that look for candidates with a very specific skill set.

The first answer that comes to mind is that our products are open source, and nothing gets our attention like fixing real bugs in our products. You can start with easy ones and learn at your own pace, with the help of other Mozilla developers as you need it. That also gives you a chance to evaluate the work you'd be doing as well as our community before you apply.

Re: Who is hiring AND offers 4+ weeks of vacation?

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I know Netflix has instated a flex vacation policy -- take as long as you need, but you have to get the job done first. It depends on where you are looking to work? If you're looking to sign on with a startup hiring their first 5 employees, then you're against the odds. Most big American companies are the same way. In all, it will depend on how good you are and how essential you are to the company. For the first year…

Flexible vacation sounds a lot like flexible salary, in my opinion. How do I know how much is reasonable? Also, how do you determine when the job is done, unless you have a very detailed to do list for the year? My job is never done, otherwise I'd be fired. Also, I hear people mentioning "taking 4 weeks in a row" as something quite rare.

from friends who have "unlimited" vacation situations I think it can turn into a bit of a guilt trip. Like, if you want to look good, you take very little. That being said, not sure if that's company culture or just workaholic friends.

Re: Who is hiring AND offers 4+ weeks of vacation?

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I would "never" work for a company that only offers 10 days of vacation That drastically reduces the number of companies you could work for. I have never had a problem with the number of vacation days. If you need more, just take unpaid days. If company A offers 4 weeks of vacation and company B offers 2 weeks, assuming everything else is equal, try to negotiate 4% more in pay to compensate for 1 paycheck's worth of…

I agree with you. I created this thread because I keep hearing about companies that offer "unlimited vacation time" that ends up being under 15 days per year because of employee fear. Also, I am not looking for a job.
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