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While I love C/C++, I thought the M1 family was specifically optimized for higher level languages?
That's kind of a myth and it's basically impossible to design a processor that runs high-level code faster than low-level code.
But at what thermal, power and monetary price? Edit: @deepnotderp[1] found the power adjusted basis: https://mobile.twitter.com/witeken/status/147844103741682893... [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29802359#29803502
Couple things that come to mind in response to that chart: Its impressive, but: Generally, take Intel's marketing material with a grain of salt. They're notorious for exaggerating, cherry-picking, and out-right lying in marketing materials. Related to that: While both the M1 Max & 12900HK have on-board iGPUs, the M1 Max has an especially powerful GPU for its class; one of the best iGPUs ever produced. That's going to…
They're specifically talking about the mobile part here. But it's not hard to believe that it will outrun the M1 Max in multithreaded benchmarks, and likely even single-threaded benchmarks. Intel's latest desktop parts are already faster than an M1 Max by a not-insignificant amount, and this is just a lower-power version. Intel's Alder Lake desktop parts are already surprisingly power efficient (ignoring the heavily…
I'm glad power efficiency is really getting a spotlight recently I tested a new AMD build with a ryzen 5 and a few hard drives and it was drawing 70w idle with a headless linux distro running. Some of this can be blamed on the case fans and hard drives, but even without that it doesn't come anywhere close to what a mac mini would draw.
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So Apple is the best regardless of which product is better?
Said like that it sounds ridiculous. That being said, if Apple silicon has the same rate of improvement as iPhone processors, Intel's victory is very temporary.
Apart from what others already said (performance per watt) this PR fails to acknowledge that M1 also has a built-in Neural Engine cores for accelerating machine learning, which is going to become the main feature of many apps. Indeed, M1 is unique in the respect that you get CPU, GPU and ML cores in a single chip, with incredible performance and minimal power utilization.
I understand the performance and power pros, but I don't like Apple architecture, if one of CPU, GPU or ML fails you have to replace everything, even what's still working. In fact I'm all in with Framework laptop, sadly they don't ship in Europe.
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I thought arm was a lot more open than x86 based tech?
No. x86 has its roots in the PC, which was an open and relatively standardised platform. ARM's rise to popularity came later, and there are literally thousands if not tens of thousands of different SoCs with an ARM core, which have nothing in common but the core. All the locked-down mobile devices are in this category, and their SoC manufacturers have been extremely reluctant to release much in the way of documentati…
The answer: it isn't open, it's proprietary. Check out x86 history, it's kinda interesting.
But at what thermal, power and monetary price? Edit: @deepnotderp[1] found the power adjusted basis: https://mobile.twitter.com/witeken/status/147844103741682893... [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29802359#29803502
Depending on the workload: does it need to? Most people I've seen use laptops near chargers, or at least within 2 hours of the nearest charging opportunity. Sometimes people travel and need more, but I don't think it's that common to need eight hours of charge at maximum performance. Don't get me wrong, the M1 is an engineering marvel and as Apple's competitors move to a similar node size I hope they too will get the…
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No. x86 has its roots in the PC, which was an open and relatively standardised platform. ARM's rise to popularity came later, and there are literally thousands if not tens of thousands of different SoCs with an ARM core, which have nothing in common but the core. All the locked-down mobile devices are in this category, and their SoC manufacturers have been extremely reluctant to release much in the way of documentati…
If x86-64 is "open" why are Intel and AMD the only manufacturers..? The answer: it isn't open, it's proprietary. Check out x86 history, it's kinda interesting.
x86-64 is patented (and the earliest CPUs with it are now over 20 years old, so probably expiring soon if not already), but original 32-bit x86 is long out of patent and there are/were quite a few other manufacturers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_x86_manufacturers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_former_IA-32_compatibl...