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Re: Motorists have been stranded on a major interstate in Virginia since last night

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Post by imgabe »

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That's not a better option. VA and MD don't want that. The people in DC don't want that. The people in DC want to be a state. That's what matters. We're far removed from it historically, but this country was created by groups of people coming together to decide they want to form a state and then joining up with other states. It's literally right there in the name: United States. It's kind of, like, our whole deal as…

Have the people considered moving?

They already live in the US. They shouldn't have to move anywhere to exercise their rights as US citizens.

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Post by dnautics »

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Not everything is racially motivated. Eventually speculation like yours crosses a boundary from legitimate social concern to conspiracy and seeing racist boogeymen in every shadow.

It's funny how the two major regions of the US that clearly deserve statehood (DC and Puerto Rico) but have been denied that right for decades, seem to be areas with lots of poor non-whites. Racism is not the only factor in play here (political balance of power is a huge factor), but to deny that racism has played a significant role in creating this situation is ridiculous. I place that racism squarely in the laps of…

You might have an argument about DC, but Puerto Rico has not been "denied" the right. There have been many plebiscites on the issue and the status quo has been maintained each time.

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Post by MathCodeLove »

shkkmo wrote: post #545
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Not everything is racially motivated. Eventually speculation like yours crosses a boundary from legitimate social concern to conspiracy and seeing racist boogeymen in every shadow.

It's funny how the two major regions of the US that clearly deserve statehood (DC and Puerto Rico) but have been denied that right for decades, seem to be areas with lots of poor non-whites. Racism is not the only factor in play here (political balance of power is a huge factor), but to deny that racism has played a significant role in creating this situation is ridiculous. I place that racism squarely in the laps of…

On what ground do you claim that DC and PR clearly deserve statehood? I think to take an incredibly complex economic, social, and political decision and assume its outcome is influenced in any significant capacity by the demographic makeup of those regions is ridiculous.

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Post by AshamedCaptain »

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Plastic water bottles won't burst when frozen. You can get a case of water bottles for under $10.

Some will burst or leak, and they leach an unpleasant plastic taste into the water — especially in hot weather.

Dunno why is this downvoted -- put an emergency plastic water bottle in your car during summer season and let me know if you would be able to drink the resulting mush, even in an emergency.

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Post by dnautics »

imgabe wrote: post #560
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> DC needs to be a state. Alternatively, give back all of the residential parts back to Maryland (like Arlington was given back to VA). For a long time this wasn't politically feasible because DC was rough and MD would not have wanted it, but by now the tax base has to be high enough for it to be a net positive for MD. Of course, the democrats will lose 3 "safe" electoral votes but you could amend the constitution to…

MD doesn't want that and neither does DC. DC is not Maryland. It's its own place with its own identity.

I hear this all the time from clueless rich DC residents who get wrapped up in all sorts of granfalloons. You don't think "Arlington" is its own place with its own identity separate from the rest of Virgina? Moreover, anacostia residents probably have more in common with residents of pg county than residents of palisades, who have more in common with bethesda residents than anacostia residents.

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Post by pmorici »

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Arlington VA is a county, not a city, and has the land area and tax base of a county. Indeed Arlington is perhaps the most successful build out of mass transit in a community in the United States in the last 30 years. https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/08/arlingt... Also the DC metro system is in fact organized across state lines and receives generous federal subsidies....DC Metro spends $4.7 billion a…

> The primary issue this week is that this section of Virginia rarely sees snowstorms of this magnitude and further most DC residents have no idea how to drive in it (or know when to stay home). That's not really it. We get snowstorms of this size once every 2 or 3 years, sometimes more. The problem is that somehow they didn't keep up with plowing and salting on that stretch of I-95, and that led to back-ups, and onc…

They don’t get snow often enough that is makes sense to have robust snow removal. Even when it does snow it is rare that it doesn’t all melt within 24 hours of the storm passing. This is different than in the northern states where snow removal is a priority and it can snow weekly all winter and the snow sticks around until spring unless it is cleared.

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Post by kylehotchkiss »

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Btw. I replaced some years ago the blanket with a sleeping bag (warmer + can be folded/compressed better therefore needs less space when stored/hidden in the trunk), and the normal flashlight with another one which is magnetic on one side (for example so that it won't move while mount snow chains).

A sleeping bag that is stored compressed loses it's insulation properties: https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/how-to-store-a-sleep... I keep a Harbor Freight moving blanket in my trunk. It's thick for insulation, and also cheap in case you need to protect your seats after a muddy activity. I also wouldn't feel torn up about laying it down on ice if I need some traction.

And if you ever need a new one, it’s like $2

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Post by mannerheim »

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:-D Great question. Probably? https://www.yellowpages.com/search?search_terms=snowmobile+r...

> 1.3 million registered snowmobiles in the US [0] For fun, let's just say those are evenly distributed amongst the states and there are 26,000 snowmobiles available in Virginia at DoorDash's disposal. I'd wager snowmobiles wouldn't be the limiting factor in this operation. [0]( https://www.snowmobile.org/snowmobiling-statistics-and-facts... )

There are probably not very many snowmobiles in Florida.

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Post by imgabe »

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Not everything is racially motivated. Eventually speculation like yours crosses a boundary from legitimate social concern to conspiracy and seeing racist boogeymen in every shadow.

I generally agree that not everything is racially motivated, but it's pretty well documented that this is, or at least was, historically.

Dream City[1] is a good book about the history of DC. Part of the reason there is such a large Black population is that a lot of freed slaves moved there after the Civil War. In later years, Congress, which is effectively charged with governing the District, and of course included representatives and Senators from former Confederate states, definitely considered that when deciding whether DC should be able to manage its own affairs. DC wasn't granted Home Rule and its own city government until 1973.

[1] https://www.amazon.com/Dream-City-Power-Decline-Washington/d...

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Post by Mandatum »

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> does the establishment of washington dc as an unrepresented area make sense today in 2022? Many things in the US political system don't make sense in 2022, especially from an European point of view - mining and water rights, inequality of rural and urban votes because of unproportional representation in the Senate, Presidential votes in "stronghold" states being effectively wasted thanks to the Electoral College, t…

> it was not anticipated that civilians would be able to own weapons of war) That was in fact the entire point ( https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/246 ). > (a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the Unite…

New Zealand is not doing fine. Populism has fucked over a generation, and the chickens have started coming home to roost.
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