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Utah tech executive resigns after anti-semitic email rant

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Re: Utah tech executive resigns after anti-semitic email rant

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It's actually a bit scary that someone this successful not only believes, but openly proselytizes this kind of delusional racist thinking.

That’s not even the scary part to me. There are all sorts of people with whacked out ideas. The scary part is when they have power over others.

Re: Utah tech executive resigns after anti-semitic email rant

#72
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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It really isn't. Most on the far right are very very very pro-Israel.

Being "pro-Israel" doesn't necessarily preclude antisemitism. Lots of weird mental gymnastics going on with some folks.

E.g. Trump who according to himself is a bigger friend of Israel than Jews living in America are, while at the same time using the Star of David to label political opponents as corrupt, feeding antisemitic cliches by claiming various media is controlled by Jews, suggesting American Jews are disloyal because they serve Israel first, ...

Majorie Taylor Greene also finds time to blame anti-Israel positions for violence against Jews - inbetween her bullshit about Jews running everything and plotting evil things.

Then there's the entire thing with the Evangelical Zionists, where the origin is the belief they need to support Israel for theological reasons - but not necessarily to support Jewish people (especially not those outside Israel), but as a tool.

To a degree probably also geopolitics: it makes sense to support Israel if you hate their opponents (Arab Muslims) even more.

Re: Utah tech executive resigns after anti-semitic email rant

#74
post #11

The free-speech brigade that rails against Cancel Culture will be speaking out against this any second

It's perfectly okay to be pro-free-speech while acknowledging people like this exist. Plus the guy resigned, not hounded into quitting by a Twitter mob.

Plenty of resignations, firings, bans and other things have been denounced as "cancel culture" by the free speech brigade which didn't involve a Twitter mob hounding anyone. But the article says he resigned after "condemnation throughout Utah's tech community." Surely that's cancel culture? The chilling effect of the mob, the jackboot of censorship?

The only reason no one is standing up and giving a full-throated defense of this man's right to speak his mind without consequence is that they're only willing to defend heinous speech in the abstract. Give them a concrete example and suddenly they discover the existence of nuance and sit in the corner whistling Dixie.

Re: Utah tech executive resigns after anti-semitic email rant

#75

Does being rich make people go crazy? And think that nothing can happen to them? I wouldn't even type this kind of thing into a private Google Doc, let alone send a mass email.

Probably the other way around. Obsessive behavior leads to high achievements when channeled into the right activity. Before it gets misdirected at Jews.

Re: Utah tech executive resigns after anti-semitic email rant

#76

This man is seriously unwell. This wasn't just normal politics - This was deep conspiracy theory nonsense. The fact that he thought others would appreciate the message is further proof that he is in the midst of a serious crisis. He has completely lost touch with reality. Unfortunately, being a wealthy ex-CEO and ex-pat living in another country, away from his former social circles, has likely removed all social supp…

>This wasn't just normal politics - This was deep conspiracy theory nonsense.

A woman who believes Jewish space lasers create widlfires was elected to the House of Representatives on behalf of a movement that believes the Democratic Party is a secret cult of Satanic pedophiles. A movement following a President who, among other things[0], believed Barack Obama was a secret Kenyan Muslim Marxist extremist who founded Al Qaeda.

This is what normal is now. This is the Overton Window starting to move right from talk radio scale crazy after 9/11 and not stopping even when it hit the batshit insanity of QAnon. Mere anti-semitism is quaint in comparison to what the mainstream believes nowadays, and so common as to be banal. This guy was just stupid enough to say the quiet part out loud.

Oh, and of course it's tied in to vaccinations because... of course it is.

[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories_pr...

Re: Utah tech executive resigns after anti-semitic email rant

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> Yes. I sent it. I have nothing but love for the Jewish people. Some of my closest friends are Jews. Satire has nothing on this article

I genuinely believe that these people see "the Jews" and "Jewish people" as two entirely separate concepts in their head. One is the group of people they may know, hang out with, be friends with, and one is the concept of evil brought up by conspiracy nuts that get associated with murdering babies and widespread paedophilia. I've read an article, linked here during the Trump administration, about people of Mexican or…

> I genuinely believe that these people see "the Jews" and "Jewish people" as two entirely separate concepts in their head. One is the group of people they may know, hang out with, be friends with, and one is the concept of evil brought up by conspiracy nuts

One can only imagine that many people in, say, 19th-c. and early 20th-c. Germany held similar notions and views. This if anything makes such conspiracy nuttery even more dangerous.

Re: Utah tech executive resigns after anti-semitic email rant

#78
post #63
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Trumpists are actually among the most pro-Israel, but it's mostly an "owning the libs" thing, not out of any actual love of Jews.

How can you possibly suppose to quantify this statement?

Trump declared himself the most pro-Israel president in american history. That seems pretty definitive.

Re: Utah tech executive resigns after anti-semitic email rant

#79

Ah... Yet More Proof(tm) that "intelligence" is multi-dimentional. And that you can be very bright indeed in some dimensions (evidence - he was a tech executive), yet far dimmer than a box of rocks (has any box of rocks ever committed career suicide via anti-semitic rant?) in others. A Modest Proposal: Mr. Bateman needs a 72-hour involuntary admission to a good psychiatric hospital. His recent behavior might be cause…

>Ah... Yet More Proof(tm) that "intelligence" is multi-dimensional

I thought of Mel Gibson when I read the story, who had some similar over-the-top crazy Jewish conspiracy tirades. But has done quite well, particularly as a movie director. And seems witty under the right circumstances, to me.

Re: Utah tech executive resigns after anti-semitic email rant

#80

This man is seriously unwell. This wasn't just normal politics - This was deep conspiracy theory nonsense. The fact that he thought others would appreciate the message is further proof that he is in the midst of a serious crisis. He has completely lost touch with reality. Unfortunately, being a wealthy ex-CEO and ex-pat living in another country, away from his former social circles, has likely removed all social supp…

> Unfortunately, being a wealthy ex-CEO and ex-pat living in another country Puerto Rico is another country?

Is that where he is currently living? Puerto Rico is proper American territory and they're all American citizens there, so I definitely wouldn't call it another country (source: I'm Puerto Rican.)
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