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Re: Utah tech executive resigns after anti-semitic email rant

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Post by LudwigNagasena »

seattle_spring wrote: post #18
version_five wrote: post #12

Having just read it, this sounds like a mental health issue to me. It's well outside the bounds of opinion, even a ridiculous or hateful opinion. I worry that people are running to mock this guy because they want to portray these views as the kind of things their opponents actually think, while in reality there is clearly something wrong with him and he may need some compassion. This is not a fringe opinion, there is…

You do realize that a non-trivial amount of politicians have publicly made similar claims about the Jews? It's not like this is some isolated incident.

Can you name some politicians that claimed that the COVID-19 vaccine is part of a plot by "the Jews" to exterminate people or something similar?

Re: Utah tech executive resigns after anti-semitic email rant

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Post by ars »

mullingitover wrote: post #35
TylerE wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It really isn't. Most on the far right are very very very pro-Israel.

The far right is a pretty splintered group, and when you look even a little to the right of principled centrists you quickly get into serious horseshoe political theory territory. The 'Bush republicans' are very pro-Israel, but the 'election was stolen, covid is a conspiracy' post-Trump republicans aren't from that generation and aren't nearly as rational.

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Re: Utah tech executive resigns after anti-semitic email rant

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Post by TylerE »

mullingitover wrote: post #35
TylerE wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It really isn't. Most on the far right are very very very pro-Israel.

The far right is a pretty splintered group, and when you look even a little to the right of principled centrists you quickly get into serious horseshoe political theory territory. The 'Bush republicans' are very pro-Israel, but the 'election was stolen, covid is a conspiracy' post-Trump republicans aren't from that generation and aren't nearly as rational.

The Trumpists are actually among the most pro-Israel, but it's mostly an "owning the libs" thing, not out of any actual love of Jews.

Re: Utah tech executive resigns after anti-semitic email rant

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Post by RC_ITR »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #13

This man is seriously unwell. This wasn't just normal politics - This was deep conspiracy theory nonsense. The fact that he thought others would appreciate the message is further proof that he is in the midst of a serious crisis. He has completely lost touch with reality. Unfortunately, being a wealthy ex-CEO and ex-pat living in another country, away from his former social circles, has likely removed all social supp…

Literally the late-life story of Tony from Zappos - https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-death-of-zappos-tony-hsieh-...

Hopefully this case will turn out better than Tony's tragedy, but it is also important to remember, just because Bateman is mentally ill doesn't mean he should get a pass for spreading hateful and harmful ideas. You can be mentally ill (paranoid even) without developing a hatred for a particular marginalized group.

Re: Utah tech executive resigns after anti-semitic email rant

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Post by bell-cot »

Ah... Yet More Proof(tm) that "intelligence" is multi-dimentional. And that you can be very bright indeed in some dimensions (evidence - he was a tech executive), yet far dimmer than a box of rocks (has any box of rocks ever committed career suicide via anti-semitic rant?) in others.

A Modest Proposal: Mr. Bateman needs a 72-hour involuntary admission to a good psychiatric hospital. His recent behavior might be caused by a fast-growing brain tumor, or congenital malformation of the cerebrum, or abuse of high-risk recreational drugs, or be the first clear symptom of a late-manifesting major psychiatric disorder. It's for his own good, really.

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Post by trs8080 »

TylerE wrote: post #25
mullingitover wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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It really isn't. Most on the far right are very very very pro-Israel.

citation needed on this. most far right conspiracy theories are antisemitic because they're rooted in white supremacy. "jews will not replace us," qanon, etc.

Re: Utah tech executive resigns after anti-semitic email rant

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Post by emilsedgh »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #13

This man is seriously unwell. This wasn't just normal politics - This was deep conspiracy theory nonsense. The fact that he thought others would appreciate the message is further proof that he is in the midst of a serious crisis. He has completely lost touch with reality. Unfortunately, being a wealthy ex-CEO and ex-pat living in another country, away from his former social circles, has likely removed all social supp…

I am Jewish and I have a Jewish cousin who thinks more stupid things. Jews are out to get us! And they have been trying to do so since Moses! They want to sacrifice people for gods because gods like the smell of burning blood!

Last time I met this person was 2 years ago. He was obsessed with Trump. Back then I thought in 10-15 years he is gonna be into many conspiracy theories but this time i met him he sounded completely insane.

And I hate that for this guy everyone is saying its because he is rich. There is plenty of dumb conspiracies that people in the US are believing en masse across all classes and ages. Its sad that we can just sit around and do nothing.

Re: Utah tech executive resigns after anti-semitic email rant

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Post by [deleted] »

RC_ITR wrote: post #44
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #13

This man is seriously unwell. This wasn't just normal politics - This was deep conspiracy theory nonsense. The fact that he thought others would appreciate the message is further proof that he is in the midst of a serious crisis. He has completely lost touch with reality. Unfortunately, being a wealthy ex-CEO and ex-pat living in another country, away from his former social circles, has likely removed all social supp…

Literally the late-life story of Tony from Zappos - https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-death-of-zappos-tony-hsieh-... Hopefully this case will turn out better than Tony's tragedy, but it is also important to remember, just because Bateman is mentally ill doesn't mean he should get a pass for spreading hateful and harmful ideas. You can be mentally ill (paranoid even) without developing a hatred for a particular margina…

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Re: Utah tech executive resigns after anti-semitic email rant

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Post by fredgrott »

I hate to point this out but at least in the USA a high percentage of CVOID deaths are among unfortunately republican voters.

I think we could better face things if we loved ourselves more as when we do that our desire to attack others goes down and our desire to make things goes up. Just something that I picked up in getting my ADHD under control.

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