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Re: The UX on this small child is terrible

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Post by nicoburns » Wed, Jan 05, 2022, 12:30 AM UTC

mattlondon wrote: post #39

cpursley wrote: post #28

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Can somebody explain the "won't eat vegetables" thing? The only place I've heard about this being in issue is in America.

My kid (~2 years) prefers to eat food they like the taste of most. Turns out that they prefer the sweet tastes of biscuits and even bananas etc to broccoli and carrots. They'll whinge and whine about being hungry, so you offer them some peas or avocado or something and they will literally push it out of the way, look you straight in the eye, and tell you about how hungry they are (...but not hungry enough to eat the…

My parents avoided this issue by just not offering me crisps biscuits etc almost ever (perhaps one on the weekend if I were lucky - certainly not every day). Within healthy food groups they would make an effort to provide foods I liked though.

Re: The UX on this small child is terrible

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Post by NobodyNada » Wed, Jan 05, 2022, 12:33 AM UTC

selimthegrim wrote: post #94

mattlondon wrote: post #39

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My kid (~2 years) prefers to eat food they like the taste of most. Turns out that they prefer the sweet tastes of biscuits and even bananas etc to broccoli and carrots. They'll whinge and whine about being hungry, so you offer them some peas or avocado or something and they will literally push it out of the way, look you straight in the eye, and tell you about how hungry they are (...but not hungry enough to eat the…

So do they not class carrots as sweet at all? Is this related to kids hating olives at all?

I hated carrots growing up. I definitely would not describe them as "sweet": they taste dry and sour, take a long time to chew, and the juice makes my throat hurt.

Maybe my family just bought bad carrots, but they all seemed to like them. I don't know.

Re: The UX on this small child is terrible

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Post by ImaCake » Wed, Jan 05, 2022, 12:33 AM UTC

awb wrote: post #66

Just wait until the automatic over-the-air updates kick in and the Small Child becomes Teenage Child without your consent. All your favorite Small Child features are now buried 5-layers deep under confusing menus that are apparently different on each version. I found it under: Late Night -> Food -> Sugary Foods -> Milkshakes -> Make Your Own -> Enable Small Child Fun Mode

Wow. I am now confident that SMART TV manufacturers simply want to make our TVs as easy to use as our children. Who can blame them for that? It preps potential future end-user/parents like myself for the advanced UI that is a small child.

Re: The UX on this small child is terrible

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Post by ctdonath » Wed, Jan 05, 2022, 12:33 AM UTC

christophilus wrote: post #61

The NLP in mine seems to be totally broken. It thinks “Stop throwing your food on the floor!” Means “Please, do that on loop.” Also, it supposedly has the advanced AI capabilities, but its driving is way worse than Tesla Autopilot.

“Don’t do X” for young versions have to process the “X” part before the “don’t”, and processing includes going thru that motion - then getting to “don’t”, realizing the mistake, laughing about it, and then attempting to process the phrase again with the same result.

Re: The UX on this small child is terrible

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Post by na85 » Wed, Jan 05, 2022, 12:34 AM UTC

hluska wrote: post #157

na85 wrote: post #86

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Puppy also happily rolls in excrement if you don't run the Leash plugin. I have the 2017 Small Child Pro and mine tried to eat a cigarette butt that she found in a mud puddle but at least she doesn't roll in goose shit.

I have a 2016 model. You're in for a wonderful year - enjoy every second of it!! :)

Nice, have you found a way to suppress the "sass" function? Is there a patch or something?

I mean sometimes I feel like mine is a much older model in a small casing.

Re: The UX on this small child is terrible

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Post by kubanczyk » Wed, Jan 05, 2022, 12:34 AM UTC

adamredwoods wrote: post #171

buu700 wrote: post #100

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Have you tried turning it off and on again?

In the winter, the boot times are ridiculous.

The new models actually very often need a reboot right after their first booting completes!

Re: The UX on this small child is terrible

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Post by gullywhumper » Wed, Jan 05, 2022, 12:37 AM UTC

Just focus on demonstrating growth now, profitability will come later.

Re: The UX on this small child is terrible

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Post by bentcorner » Wed, Jan 05, 2022, 12:38 AM UTC

plaidfuji wrote: post #2

How do I get new features added to the roadmap? I’ve been asking for an “eat vegetables” interface without the “offer dessert in exchange” workaround for over a year, no response, yet in the same time frame I’ve seen things like “climb top-heavy bookshelf” and “unfurl entire toilet paper roll” deployed… who is asking for these features??

Classic Innovator's Dilemma. The existing older model has mastery of several different features but adding unrelated features to the model is time consuming and expensive. Adding these features to the newer smaller models is much easier. Often times the older units are completely unaware of the capabilities of the newer ones.

Re: The UX on this small child is terrible

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Post by jiggunjer » Wed, Jan 05, 2022, 12:40 AM UTC

tonyedgecombe wrote: post #16

plaidfuji wrote: post #2

How do I get new features added to the roadmap? I’ve been asking for an “eat vegetables” interface without the “offer dessert in exchange” workaround for over a year, no response, yet in the same time frame I’ve seen things like “climb top-heavy bookshelf” and “unfurl entire toilet paper roll” deployed… who is asking for these features??

> unfurl entire toilet paper roll That reminds me of one ours pulling the film out of three 35mm film canisters.

And mine pulling dental floss out of the container.

Re: The UX on this small child is terrible

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Post by Symbiote » Wed, Jan 05, 2022, 12:41 AM UTC

nostrademons wrote: post #166

quartesixte wrote: post #147

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> children won't eat grownup food so you should offer something else. Having grown up in an immigrant household where the children’s plate is just a smaller version of the adult plate, is this a thing in American households? The kids eat an entirely separate meal-course from the adults? I know baby food is processed but once a kid gets teeth, they’re just given what the adults eat. My grandmother would have banish fr…

That's what kids' menus are at restaurants. Spaghetti & meatballs, chicken fingers, mac 'n cheese, pizza, sometimes fish & chips. The same staple foods that basically all kids will eat, as a separate meal course. My wife grew up in an immigrant family, I grew up in a half-immigrant (but largely Americanized) family. This was an element of culture shock for her. In American culture the norm is that everybody eats what…

I spent about 4 months in total in the US as a child, visiting relatives and doing road trips.

I remember several restaurant visits. I was old enough (12-17) to order from the adult menu without comment in most cases, although in a fancy place I did have all the waitresses coming to look at me eat snails.

Elsewhere, waiters sometimes said "are you sure he/she will eat that?" when my younger siblings made their choices, or "I see you guys really are from Europe, American kids don't eat XYZ".

(I have eaten chicken/turkey nuggets perhaps 3 or 4 times in my life. From 2005, many schools in Britain were banned or limited from serving them [1]. Sodas are also banned.)

[1] https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/school-food-stand...