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Re: Ask YC: What is the best area in SF Bay Area for startup hackers?

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Thanks! I am currently in a hotel in SOMA, but think to move a little bit southwest I guess — I don't want to spend more than $500/wk for rent, and housing is really a bit crazy in SF ;)

You can definitely find a place cheaper than $500/wk in SF. I live in the city, and pay way less than that.

Short term rentals seems to be more expensive than long-term ones

Re: Ask YC: What is the best area in SF Bay Area for startup hackers?

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Thanks! I am currently in a hotel in SOMA, but think to move a little bit southwest I guess — I don't want to spend more than $500/wk for rent, and housing is really a bit crazy in SF ;)

I would recommend roommates. 3/4 bedrooms are a lot cheaper per person than 1 bedrooms and you get a porch. If you post that you're looking for roommates here I expect you will find some. Or http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/roo/

I agree completely - contingent on getting good roommates of course.

1. Keeps you sane having other people about. 2. Means you're in a big place. Staying and working in a studio would be claustrophobic. 3. You will probably meet other people. 4. It's loads cheaper...

Course, if the flatmates aren't the right people then it would be hell on earth.

You should probably be upfront if you're planning on working from home - wouldn't suit everyone.

Re: Ask YC: What is the best area in SF Bay Area for startup hackers?

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500 per week?? The high rents in SF are caused by rent control. http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-274.html

Supply and demand also may be a factor.

Does rent-control decrease supply/demand?

Re: Ask YC: What is the best area in SF Bay Area for startup hackers?

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500 per week?? so less than 2k per month? that seems pretty pricey...about to move into the mission and paying 800/mo.

I was referring to the price he stated in his original post (he said he didn't want to pay more than $500/wk). I'm living in the mission now and paying much less than $500/wk (but I have 4 roommates).

ok gotcha, didnt see that.

Re: Ask YC: What is the best area in SF Bay Area for startup hackers?

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We just moved our startup to the Bay Area a couple of weeks ago :) My partner and I found a temporary place in Mountain View for the next few weeks while we look for a more permanent place -- but everyone has recommended us to either live in SF or Palo Alto. We should meet up some time once you are settled!

Done. I am settled and would love to meet with people around :)

Re: Ask YC: What is the best area in SF Bay Area for startup hackers?

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Supply and demand also may be a factor.

Does rent-control decrease supply/demand?

Sure.

My point is that the major factor in the pricing of San Francisco housing is that it is one of the most desirable housing markets in the USA. With or without rent control, prices would be high because it is a relatively small city where a whole lot of people want to live.

Re: Ask YC: What is the best area in SF Bay Area for startup hackers?

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Does rent-control decrease supply/demand?

Sure. My point is that the major factor in the pricing of San Francisco housing is that it is one of the most desirable housing markets in the USA. With or without rent control, prices would be high because it is a relatively small city where a whole lot of people want to live.

SF has a land area of 121 km², and a population density of 6,324.4/km². (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_francisco) Here is a list of cities with higher population densities:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_population

Delhi 26,276 Kolkata 24,760 Chennai 24,418 Mumbai 22,658 Bangalore 22,426 Hyderabad 21,293 Ahmedabad 19,979 Seoul 17,213 Tokyo 13,682 Wuhan 12,868 Jakarta 12,738 New York City 10,452 Tehran 10,260 Moscow 9,644 Lima 8,544 Yokohama 8,182 Lagos 7,938 São Paulo 7,148

With or without rent control, prices would be high because

...Because the buildings have been built as high as physically possible? If not that, why are San Francisco buildings so short? New York City has 82 buildings over 600 feet high. San Francisco has 7. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_Ne... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_Sa...

If not because of rent-control laws, why does San Francisco supply not follow San Francisco demand? Did you read the William Tucker paper, linked above, that explains why?

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