The UX on this small child is terrible • Hacker News Board

Re: The UX on this small child is terrible

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Post by reaperducer » Tue, Jan 04, 2022, 10:26 PM UTC

cpursley wrote: post #28

plaidfuji wrote: post #2

How do I get new features added to the roadmap? I’ve been asking for an “eat vegetables” interface without the “offer dessert in exchange” workaround for over a year, no response, yet in the same time frame I’ve seen things like “climb top-heavy bookshelf” and “unfurl entire toilet paper roll” deployed… who is asking for these features??

Can somebody explain the "won't eat vegetables" thing? The only place I've heard about this being in issue is in America.

Can somebody explain the "won't eat vegetables" thing? The only place I've heard about this being a problem is in America.

And yet I've seen it on TV shows in both the U.K., and Australia.

Re: The UX on this small child is terrible

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Post by technothrasher » Tue, Jan 04, 2022, 10:27 PM UTC

jannyfer wrote: post #62

CapitalistCartr wrote: post #4

The things children are born not knowing is crazy. The pre-programming is limited ! You have to teach them how to blow their nose. "Don't eat your boogers." Holds finger out to me. I wipe it off. "Don't pick your nose, blow it instead. No, don't pick my nose either."

Hang on, genuine question - do some people consider blowing their nose vs. picking their nose to be an all-or-nothing choice? If it's dry, I can't blow my nose... Unless there is some method I am not aware of.

I think the lesson learned is really, "don't let people see you picking your nose because... reasons"

Re: The UX on this small child is terrible

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Post by mithr » Tue, Jan 04, 2022, 10:27 PM UTC

cameldrv wrote: post #49

cpursley wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can somebody explain the "won't eat vegetables" thing? The only place I've heard about this being in issue is in America.

I've heard some speculation that this can be related to breast vs. formula feeding. If the mom eats a lot of vegetables, some of the tastes will come out in the milk and get the baby accustomed to those tastes.

This is highly unlikely, similarly to claims that eating cruciferous vegetables will lead to gassy breast-fed babies. Breast milk isn't the distilled contents of the parent's stomach. In contrast, alcohol (for example) is a problem because it affects the parent's bloodstream, not because it fills their stomach.

Re: The UX on this small child is terrible

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Jan 04, 2022, 10:27 PM UTC

mensetmanusman wrote: post #29

cpursley wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can somebody explain the "won't eat vegetables" thing? The only place I've heard about this being in issue is in America.

Sugar/bread is easier. We solve this by having a tiered eating system that starts with some salad or veggies, if they don’t eat, they clearly aren’t deathly hungry; dessert is available at the end of the meal if they finish. Note this may require a family eating culture that includes salad et al. With every dinner, which is not the norm in America.

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Re: The UX on this small child is terrible

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Post by samwillis » Tue, Jan 04, 2022, 10:28 PM UTC

icambron wrote: post #68

samwillis wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The trouble we find is our v2 model, which we had hoped could have made improvements over v1, frequents the same unsavoury places that v1 did initially and continues to be compromised by the same vulnerabilities. It seems later versions are destined to make the same mistakes again. The only comfort though is that you have become accustomed to how to address the bug reports when they are filed. Fortunately our V2 has…

The maintenance of several products in different lifecycle phases is a huge issue for us. Different failure modes, different protocols for providing feedback, and different basic maintenance needs. For example, v1 requires the users to manage reading homework, the v2 requires bedtime stories, v3 requires diaper changes and milk, all simultaneously. This adds a lot of operational complexity for our already overwhelmed…

We were concerned about trying to manage more than two of these products at once and so, as the Assistant to the VP of Reproduction, have made certain permanent operational changes to the equipment to ensure no further acquisitions are possible.

Re: The UX on this small child is terrible

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Post by dylan604 » Tue, Jan 04, 2022, 10:29 PM UTC

CapitalistCartr wrote: post #4

The things children are born not knowing is crazy. The pre-programming is limited ! You have to teach them how to blow their nose. "Don't eat your boogers." Holds finger out to me. I wipe it off. "Don't pick your nose, blow it instead. No, don't pick my nose either."

>The things children are born not knowing is crazy. The pre-programming is limited!

You purchased the DIY version. With this version, you are expected to continuously update the programming. Most people seem to focus on higher level programming using a language of "ivy league".

Re: The UX on this small child is terrible

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Post by kazinator » Tue, Jan 04, 2022, 10:29 PM UTC

Rule of thumb: when the UX is that horrible, you're wrong in your assumption abut who the user is: that it is you.

Re: The UX on this small child is terrible

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Post by xwdv » Tue, Jan 04, 2022, 10:30 PM UTC

plaidfuji wrote: post #2

How do I get new features added to the roadmap? I’ve been asking for an “eat vegetables” interface without the “offer dessert in exchange” workaround for over a year, no response, yet in the same time frame I’ve seen things like “climb top-heavy bookshelf” and “unfurl entire toilet paper roll” deployed… who is asking for these features??

Food should never be a reward to a child. Offer something else.

Re: The UX on this small child is terrible

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Post by sophacles » Tue, Jan 04, 2022, 10:32 PM UTC

dylan604 wrote: post #54

plaidfuji wrote: post #2

How do I get new features added to the roadmap? I’ve been asking for an “eat vegetables” interface without the “offer dessert in exchange” workaround for over a year, no response, yet in the same time frame I’ve seen things like “climb top-heavy bookshelf” and “unfurl entire toilet paper roll” deployed… who is asking for these features??

>who is asking for these features?? The project managers have had a look at some of the competing products, and felt that matching features would be more competitive vs fixing existing bugs.

Yeah, but look at puppy for example - it just eats what you give it. (If anything, the makers of that product should introduce a bit of pickiness tbh). The small child makers should really take an example from puppy - AI is a nice way to get some behaviors trained up, but over-doing it (e.g. in the "what to eat" module) can be just as bad as not enough (compare brine shrimp for the problems of a no AI approach).

Re: The UX on this small child is terrible

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Post by dylan604 » Tue, Jan 04, 2022, 10:36 PM UTC

sophacles wrote: post #79

dylan604 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>who is asking for these features?? The project managers have had a look at some of the competing products, and felt that matching features would be more competitive vs fixing existing bugs.

Yeah, but look at puppy for example - it just eats what you give it. (If anything, the makers of that product should introduce a bit of pickiness tbh). The small child makers should really take an example from puppy - AI is a nice way to get some behaviors trained up, but over-doing it (e.g. in the "what to eat" module) can be just as bad as not enough (compare brine shrimp for the problems of a no AI approach).

Sorry, you're blaming someone else for the decision on chosing Small Child vs Cute Loveable Puppy? Buyer's remorse is strong. You should have researched the return options before purchase. However, adding Cute Loveable Puppy can sometimes improve Small Child, or just add to headache.