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Motorists have been stranded on a major interstate in Virginia since last night

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Re: Motorists have been stranded on a major interstate in Virginia since last night

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I'm not surprised. I've taken this road before during the 2017 Eclipse. Its a path that connects major parts of the country together, but there are no alternative roads to take if this one road closes. Other locations have "Backup" highways to lighten the load or otherwise take up the slack if the main road closes. Not so here. I've been told that Virginia once had plans to build additional highways / alternative roa…

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Re: Motorists have been stranded on a major interstate in Virginia since last night

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I'm getting a bit of a chuckle over these suggestions of "backup roads" and "alternative routes." NoVa is just as strapped for housing as it is for transportation. Mass transit in this area doesn't and won't work, no matter how much money is poured in, because much of it is not a "city" in the usual sense, but rather endless miles of suburban sprawl stretching from one horizon to the opposite. The only viable solution- though the idea seems to make people break out in a rash- is to move the capital. Move it somewhere central to the nation, geographically speaking, keep it as compact as possible, and for heaven's sake prohibit its use as a place of residence (ahem).

Re: Motorists have been stranded on a major interstate in Virginia since last night

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A good reminder to keep some warm blankets/coats/gloves/hats in your trunk, along with some non-perishable snacks and a first-aid kit & flashlight. Water is harder to store in the winter since it will freeze and burst containers if full, but snow can be melted given a container to put it in. Also a good to refuel often. I try treat 1/2 a tank as empty and stop accordingly. On longer trips it lines up well with bathro…

I know this is gross to talk about, but I'd also add "incontinence blankets" to this list. Specifically for being locked in traffic for this long. There are reusable incontinence blankets you can get. This way you have something designed to catch waste if you misfire.

Re: Motorists have been stranded on a major interstate in Virginia since last night

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post #33

The ineptitude of the state governments in DC/VA/MD is amazing to me. Snow happens in these places?

Snow actually didn't use to happen in those places. Not in this way. That's why the word "change" is in "climate change". DC, btw, is not a state, and has no "state government".

You can be pedantic about it, but DC functions in many ways like a state government.

Snow has always happened. Large accumulations are atypical, but snow is a thing and Virginia is uniquely incompetent at handling it.

Re: Motorists have been stranded on a major interstate in Virginia since last night

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Unprecedented? This happens all the time. It is called a major winter storm and they happen every year. It is also a cautionary tale. If you rely on cell phones for communication, you may find yourself in big trouble when the cell phones no longer work. Get a two way radio. At least a FRS or CB radio, but better off with an amateur radio license so you can use the many repeater sites and HF if you are truly stuck someplace that is remote.

Re: Motorists have been stranded on a major interstate in Virginia since last night

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post #29

14 inches of snow at Fredricksburg, VA. All at once. The annual average is 13 inches. This seems to be an unexpected consequence of climate change. Slower moving storms, with huge amounts of rain or snow in a short period.

It is called winter.

Re: Motorists have been stranded on a major interstate in Virginia since last night

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I'm getting a bit of a chuckle over these suggestions of "backup roads" and "alternative routes." NoVa is just as strapped for housing as it is for transportation. Mass transit in this area doesn't and won't work, no matter how much money is poured in, because much of it is not a "city" in the usual sense, but rather endless miles of suburban sprawl stretching from one horizon to the opposite. The only viable solutio…

> no matter how much money is poured in

Challenge accepted.

Now we need the money.

Re: Motorists have been stranded on a major interstate in Virginia since last night

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd rather the T be functional and get me to where I need to be, and a better commuter rail system, then having to drive to and fro on Storrow at rush hour. There's no amount of bridges or expansions to the roads that would make it better short of leveling the city to build a giant highway, which I'm sure some percentage of Massachusetts drivers would be in favor of.

You prefer the T or commuter rail. That's fine and improving those modes of transit seems a fine goal as well. That preference/goal doesn't support an argument that the Big Dig solved nothing for those who choose to drive.

The only goal is to get in and out of Boston in a reasonable amount of time. I wasn't around for pre Big Dig Boston but it's still dangerous and time-consuming driving to get out of Boston by car. The Big Dig might've made it _less_ dangerous and time-consuming, but the point is the solution barely scales since the total number of people driving just increased instead. If they spent those 20 years and billions of dollars on burying and expanding the T lines, and improving the commuter rail offerings, I wager we'd have achieved a lot more towards the aforementioned goal of getting in and out of Boston quickly.

Re: Motorists have been stranded on a major interstate in Virginia since last night

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Yeah, they're shifting the goal posts. Here in city (Seattle) most people drive because transit tends to be spotty and slow for most people. So, what's the solution? Make driving worse of course. Speedbumps everywhere . Change 4-lane roads to 2-lanes. Remove parking. Lower speed limits to absurd levels. Make through streets dead ends. Transit still mostly sucks, but now driving sucks too. Success! I love transit and…

> Here in city (Seattle) most people drive because transit tends to be spotty and slow for most people...So, what's the solution? Make driving worse of course. Speedbumps everywhere. Change 4-lane roads to 2-lanes. Remove parking. Lower speed limits to absurd levels. Make through streets dead ends. This is obviously not the solution that anyone is proposing. You're arguing in bad faith against a strawman. The solutio…

Go to /r/urbanplanning and you will find this creed of road dieting written in stone tablets by a thundering voice

Re: Motorists have been stranded on a major interstate in Virginia since last night

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post #263

A good reminder to keep some warm blankets/coats/gloves/hats in your trunk, along with some non-perishable snacks and a first-aid kit & flashlight. Water is harder to store in the winter since it will freeze and burst containers if full, but snow can be melted given a container to put it in. Also a good to refuel often. I try treat 1/2 a tank as empty and stop accordingly. On longer trips it lines up well with bathro…

I know this is gross to talk about, but I'd also add "incontinence blankets" to this list. Specifically for being locked in traffic for this long. There are reusable incontinence blankets you can get. This way you have something designed to catch waste if you misfire.

I have these bags made for urine or vomit with a gel in it that will congealed the contents. I was stranded on a closed highway and had to pee so bad. Never again.
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