I actually kind of want to use GNOME just for this now. Call me crazy but little novelties like this are part of what make computers fun.
KDE has crazy effects too. They're buried deep in the settings, but all the 2000s effects are still there.
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#152VR desktops apps nowadays let you place windows around your head in VR, so that you feel fully immersed in whatever you're doing.
Back in the Compiz days, my virtual desktop switcher was a 3D cylinder. Holding the middle mouse button would zoom out my current desktop, placing me in the center of a giant 3D cylinder which I could rotate by moving the mouse to switch to a different desktop. And it worked with my dual monitor setup!
That was immersive as hell, and I felt so freaking productive having that spatial awareness of my other desktops. Back then I was doing Android development with Eclipse, and I would have one desktop for code, another desktop for logcat and an ADB terminal, and another desktop for documentation/music/etc.
And of course, all of my windows were wobbly.
Today I don't use anything fancy like that anymore, and I barely ever use virtual desktops for anything, even though switching between them with a keybinding is much easier/faster than that old setup I had. ALT+TAB takes about as much effort as CTRL+ALT+ARROW, but one is muscle memory and the other is not. If I ain't getting a fancy 3D cylinder, why bother?
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#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Good for you that you had this experience but this is the standard talking point I have been hearing for 15 years. Which is entirely anecdotal. I’ve done a considerable amount of research on this topic over the last 20 years and for the at least 10 years of it the actual main reason Windows users don’t like Linux is simply because it’s not like Windows. It doesn’t matter how much better Linux might be or how crappy…
Here we go...down the same rabbit hole that these Linux vs whatever else conversations always go down. Just to reiterate: Every OS has problems but in MY experience Linux has broken on me in fundamental ways. MY experience is that Linux cannot be trusted for day to day usage even though I have been giving it chances for 15 years now. I'm glad that you have the fortune of having a better experience but I am not going…
> Here we go...down the same rabbit hole that these Linux vs whatever else conversations always go down.
At risk of sounding like a school child: you literally started it.
My point was initially just to say that other people get on fine with Linux. Then you took us down the rabbit hole conflating preference with technical fact.
> Just to reiterate: Every OS has problems but…
Exactly my point. You try to sound impartial but then drift into anecdote and bias. Like what you like, I’m really not here to argue you into using another operating system.
> I am not going to ignore what I have experienced with the OS just because you said it was good.
I feel like I’ve said this a dozen times already…but: I’m all for people having preferences and I’d never dare try to change someone’s opinion. But you’re conflating preference as technical fact. Maybe you should relax a little and appreciate other peoples preferences too instead of assuming you’re right :)
If you read back what I’ve posted you’ll see I’m not here to argue with you that you’re experiences don’t matter to you. I’m just saying it’s all subjective.
Having done as much research as I have on this topic over the years (had to for work) it’s funny how much of what we believe is fact is actually just down to preferences and those preferences are usually just down to comfort (like an old friend) rather than technical capabilities.
But I’ll happily end the topic here if that’s you’re desire. :)
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#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
> linux is still far from being a diamond of UI design or consistency While I'll agree those are important for usability, I'm not sure they're necessary for adoption. Windows 10 uses a mix of UIs ranging from win32 windows 95 legacy to MAUI and most popular programs implement their own UI frameworks and it's doing ok.
A lot of people don't care about the experience of using a computer. If they did, there would be revolts and walk-outs against Outlook and Exchange, about SharePoint, and about every single version of Windows. I am an amateur font designer and even I find the font rendering on Windows (specially if you have mixed density screens) horrendous. It's like it has a dozen incompatible libraries using different font renderi…
In Outlook, on the vendor's own O/S, one can click on the "trash" icon of a message, and then watch in horror as a new message arrives, every message drops down a slot, and then the program recognizes the click on the trash icon of what used to be the message above, which is then deleted. I mean, come on.
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#155I wonder if it's possible to do things like this with Windows or MacOS. I love the idea of cool effects like this (even if the first thing I did after OSX introduced the genie effect was to turn it off—nowadays the hardware is fast enough for it to not be annoying and the split second of the window shrinking away is a nice visual cue as to what's happened especially if one accidentally hides the window via cmd-H).
Went down the comments looking for a Windows version. No luck. :(
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#156I wonder if it's possible to do things like this with Windows or MacOS. I love the idea of cool effects like this (even if the first thing I did after OSX introduced the genie effect was to turn it off—nowadays the hardware is fast enough for it to not be annoying and the split second of the window shrinking away is a nice visual cue as to what's happened especially if one accidentally hides the window via cmd-H).
Windows Terminal has a neat shader thing that you can use to add things like noise and scanlines to your terminals. I wish all desktop windows could have shaders applied. I'm trying to convince myself to write one for a curved CRT look and one for phosphor persistence. https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/blob/main/samples/Pixe... The Windows Terminal team has a lot more fun than the others, it seems.
> The Windows Terminal team has a lot more fun than the others, it seems.
Instead of having fun, they should be performing doctoral research to improve performance. (https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/issues/10362#issuecomm...)
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#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
I remember when Compiz was released. It was mind-blowing, its sheer awesomeness was something out of this world. "ok, Windows is done" me and my friends thought, "prepare for linux dominating the desktops". Yet ~15 years later here we are.
I miss that feeling. Desktop moves at a much slower pace today.
Me too.
Desktop "progress" is now sadly now mostly done by Microsoft (geriatric at best) and Apple (mostly just implementing the new graphical design whims every year).
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#158Recall working on an highschool assignment in MathCad on my Windows XP virtualbox, and having my work fall apart in front of my eyes...
It was the VM crashing and the window destruction effect was quite appropriate as my work wasn't saved :/
Maybe we should only burn windows when the application crashed non-zero :D
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#159Compiz was probably the single most impactful event for desktop linux of the mid 2000's. Not that it itself made much of a difference, but the ripples affect many areas we take for granted today. A few reasons: - it put linux ahead of windows and mac in terms of appearance; - it brought many new users and most were a good mix technical and enthusiasts; - it showed the advantages of modular software; - many plugins we…
I remember when Compiz was released. It was mind-blowing, its sheer awesomeness was something out of this world. "ok, Windows is done" me and my friends thought, "prepare for linux dominating the desktops". Yet ~15 years later here we are.
I remember Compiz being cool looking, but resulting in mostly crashing my computer or freezing the GPU driver.
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#160Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have to say the same. It makes the computer "feel" better. It reminds me of discussions around Mac vs PC in the early days. The experience of using a Mac was more "fluid" than Windows. The Mac would draw windows faster, move the mouse faster (as in more refreshes of the cursor position per second) and that made it more comfortable to use. At the same time I also used Sun and SGI boxes regularly and the stark differ…
If you use KDE wobbly windows are built in to its KWin compositor. :) I forget the exact details of how to get to it since I don't use KDE anymore (long-ish story), but even most of the silly things Compiz did are a configuration checkbox away in KDE.
It's under Desktop Effects.