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Motorists have been stranded on a major interstate in Virginia since last night

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Re: Motorists have been stranded on a major interstate in Virginia since last night

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Post by s5300 »

grayfaced wrote: post #10
arberx wrote: post #6

How do electric vechicles hold up in something like this?

Not well, the heater is a major drain. If you stop the heater, the batteries get cold and perform significantly worse.

I’m pulling this out of really old knowledge I’ve not looked over in years so may be incorrect…

While you are right about “not well”, the other option can often be “not at all”

The batteries used in most EV’s should always work to some degree, with regards to temperatures experienced on Earth - the batteries & other systems in most ICE can be completely crippled/not work at all under certain temps faced on Earth

Now, you can specifically go out of your way to ruggedize all systems in your ICE so it works to a much better degree than the EV, but the average person is definitely not doing that.

Re: Motorists have been stranded on a major interstate in Virginia since last night

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Post by cortesoft »

admiral33 wrote: post #9

Hey doordash here is your marketing opportunity. Bring them food, water, handwarmers, etc on a bunch of snow mobiles. Some people get helped and you get a super bowl ad

Umm if a doordash driver could get to them, then the cars could just leave themselves.

Re: Motorists have been stranded on a major interstate in Virginia since last night

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Post by kbutler »

cortesoft wrote: post #22
admiral33 wrote: post #9

Hey doordash here is your marketing opportunity. Bring them food, water, handwarmers, etc on a bunch of snow mobiles. Some people get helped and you get a super bowl ad

Umm if a doordash driver could get to them, then the cars could just leave themselves.

"...on snowmobiles..."

So the drivers could leave, but the cars would remain stranded.

Re: Motorists have been stranded on a major interstate in Virginia since last night

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Post by [deleted] »

cortesoft wrote: post #22
admiral33 wrote: post #9

Hey doordash here is your marketing opportunity. Bring them food, water, handwarmers, etc on a bunch of snow mobiles. Some people get helped and you get a super bowl ad

Umm if a doordash driver could get to them, then the cars could just leave themselves.

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Re: Motorists have been stranded on a major interstate in Virginia since last night

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Post by jeffbee »

kube-system wrote: post #20
julianh95 wrote: post #12

Some _fast_ and reliable mass transit like the trains in Japan/Europe sure would be nice to help alleviate situations like this and general traffic.

People are also stuck on Amtrak in VA https://www.upmatters.com/news/national/snow-stalls-amtrak-i...

That happens even without snow. I've been stuck on Amtrak trains because there was some object on the track (crashed vehicles) and the train just sat there for hours and they refuse to open the doors even though were were in the center of Oakland and could have happily just walked out.

Amtrak is not a great example of how trains should work.

Re: Motorists have been stranded on a major interstate in Virginia since last night

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Post by kube-system »

s5300 wrote: post #21
grayfaced wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not well, the heater is a major drain. If you stop the heater, the batteries get cold and perform significantly worse.

I’m pulling this out of really old knowledge I’ve not looked over in years so may be incorrect… While you are right about “not well”, the other option can often be “not at all” The batteries used in most EV’s should always work to some degree, with regards to temperatures experienced on Earth - the batteries & other systems in most ICE can be completely crippled/not work at all under certain temps faced on Earth Now,…

The saving grace with ICE is that they are so inefficient that they literally are mostly heat generators that also produce some mechanical force as a significant byproduct. They might not like starting in the cold, but once they're started, they're fine.

Re: Motorists have been stranded on a major interstate in Virginia since last night

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Post by gumby »

Interesting to consider that the oil industry may have made a mistake by reframing “global warming” as “climate change”.

Harder for people to see events like this as part of “global warning” while it is more understandable as a consequence of “climate change”

Re: Motorists have been stranded on a major interstate in Virginia since last night

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Post by rsj_hn »

gumby wrote: post #27

Interesting to consider that the oil industry may have made a mistake by reframing “global warming” as “climate change”. Harder for people to see events like this as part of “global warning” while it is more understandable as a consequence of “climate change”

It wasn't "the oil industry", but climate activists who, during a period when the earth wasn't warming starting around 1998, decided to reframe it as "climate change" in order to maintain the sense of crisis.
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