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NitroPhone 2/Pro with 4.5 years of software updates

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Re: NitroPhone 2/Pro with 4.5 years of software updates

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If you don't bother to click, the linked phones are the Google Pixel 6/Pro with Graphene OS and some (optional?) hardware modifications. I know it's probably not in their best interest, but I really wish they specified the source of their features individually (whether something comes from the Pixel 6 Titan chip, Graphene or their own custom hardware or software). It makes it difficult to evaluate their value-add ove…

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Re: NitroPhone 2/Pro with 4.5 years of software updates

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If you don't bother to click, the linked phones are the Google Pixel 6/Pro with Graphene OS and some (optional?) hardware modifications. I know it's probably not in their best interest, but I really wish they specified the source of their features individually (whether something comes from the Pixel 6 Titan chip, Graphene or their own custom hardware or software). It makes it difficult to evaluate their value-add ove…

All the description seems to be just generic Pixel 6 (Pro) + GrapheneOS. The one addition I found was that they would remove the hardware if you ask them to:

"Optional: For very high security requirements, both microphones and acceleration and rotation sensors can be removed. Indeed, acceleration and rotation sensors can be misused as microphones. This physically prevents conversations in the environment from being recorded. Phone calls can still be made with an external headset."

Re: NitroPhone 2/Pro with 4.5 years of software updates

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€250 to solder off components seems steep. It takes me less than 30min, i can imagine it takes a lot less to disassemble+desolder+reassemble if you do it all day. Can't see this taking up more than 1 manhour. If they added a switch instead of desolder the price would have been more reasonable (but still steep, it can buy a usable phone on its own)

I wouldn't see it that much about how long it takes once you know how to do that. Its time it takes to learn how to do it. E.g. I bought cheap phone and I wanted to debloat it/ install lineageOS. After week or something, 2-3 soft bricks, and constant issues I have semi-debloated original OS phone, with a bit more control but far from what I wanted.

To get somebody the same as I have now? 2 hours max. Would I overpay somebody else to give me the same thing, if I knew how long it takes to do from scratch? Definitely

Re: NitroPhone 2/Pro with 4.5 years of software updates

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What a scam. Something like Pine phone which allows you to customize the OS to your liking seems much more reasonable. I also would prefer a hard switch for things like cams and mics, removing them seems lazy.

As the proud owner of a Pinephone, it's not ready to be a daily driver.

I wish it were, but it ain't there yet. They have my money and my support and my spiritual energy, but I need a dependable phone today too.

Re: NitroPhone 2/Pro with 4.5 years of software updates

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Does anybody knows this company or use any of its products? Because this looks like a scam or another company providing security service for criminals (or will be mostly used by them).

I'm not using any their products, but I believe they are known for providing an alternative to yubikeys.

EDIT: actually, it seems that Purism's Librem key is (was?) based on the Nitrokey.

Re: NitroPhone 2/Pro with 4.5 years of software updates

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€250 to solder off components seems steep. It takes me less than 30min, i can imagine it takes a lot less to disassemble+desolder+reassemble if you do it all day. Can't see this taking up more than 1 manhour. If they added a switch instead of desolder the price would have been more reasonable (but still steep, it can buy a usable phone on its own)

They are from Germany, part of the cost may come from them needing to fulfill the legal 2 year warranty, once the components are desoldered.

Re: NitroPhone 2/Pro with 4.5 years of software updates

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If you're in the market for such a phone may I ask, without judgement, why? I'm very interested in whether this is aimed particularly at certain professions, if more and more people fear violation of personal privacy, etc. Again, no judgement or preconception - I'm asking in good faith.
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