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A New Future for GnuPG

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Re: A New Future for GnuPG

#11
GnuPG needs to push to update OpenPGP to stay alive. OpenPGP needs to be updated. It lacks modern AEAD (the practical impact of a better authentication might be low in many use cases; but it has become a political problem).

The code base and CLI could also be modernized so that developers could easily use its API. Sequoia is doing a good job here.

Otherwise, it risks becoming obsolete.

Re: A New Future for GnuPG

#12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Vote with your wallet.

If the military wants something, and you want the same thing, is that a problem?

The concern many have with military involvement in encryption and other security standards is that while they want for themselves exactly what we want for ourselves, they have an internal conflict of interests due to the fact that they want a bit of the exact opposite for other actors¹ which, if those concerns win out and they have the influence to force through or block changes, this could lead security issues² that potentially affect you or I.

[1] They don't want the enemy (whoever that happens to be at the time) to be able to keep secrets as securely as they want to keep their own secrets.

[2] An accidental backdoor or side-channel vulnerability not fixed nor mitigations made known publicly, because it is useful once discovered and they have mitigations to protect their use, for instance.

Re: A New Future for GnuPG

#13

They partnered with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohde_%26_Schwarz - so basically GnuPG is now funded by military auxiliaries…

I am strongly anti-militaristic, but i'm glad if such horror has to exist some funds end up in FLOSS projects that directly benefit the general public (not some random FLOSS project that only makes sense for the military) instead of always the same proprietary software vendors who are quite comfy with the whole military industrial complex (like Thales).

Re: A New Future for GnuPG

#14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the military wants something, and you want the same thing, is that a problem?

The concern many have with military involvement in encryption and other security standards is that while they want for themselves exactly what we want for ourselves, they have an internal conflict of interests due to the fact that they want a bit of the exact opposite for other actors¹ which, if those concerns win out and they have the influence to force through or block changes, this could lead security issues² that…

That's why it's a good thing it's a FLOSS solution. Despite a track record of bad code and security, GPG has always been good-willed, and has progressed over the years. For sure having more eyes/resources on the code can only help. Also the recent Sequoia PGP project can prove to be an inspiration for further improvements.

Re: A New Future for GnuPG

#15
> the BSI (Germany's Federal Office for Information Security) migrated back from Linux to Windows

I'm curious to hear why the BSI migrated back to Windows, but didn't find anything with a quick search. Any more information on this?

Re: A New Future for GnuPG

#16
post #11

GnuPG needs to push to update OpenPGP to stay alive. OpenPGP needs to be updated. It lacks modern AEAD (the practical impact of a better authentication might be low in many use cases; but it has become a political problem). The code base and CLI could also be modernized so that developers could easily use its API. Sequoia is doing a good job here. Otherwise, it risks becoming obsolete.

>...the practical impact of a better authentication might be low in many use cases; but it has become a political problem...

In the ways that GnuPG is normally used the practical impact is zero because that is not how a stateless, offline protocol works. The content is authenticated by signing it directly, thus avoiding the extra complexity of a stateful connection oriented authentication scheme. The details here:

* https://articles.59.ca/doku.php?id=pgpfan:authenticated

So should functionality be added here for what would be purely political reasons? Or should the political purpose be spun off into a separate utility?

Re: A New Future for GnuPG

#20
post #2

duplicate to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29775420

That post hardly generated any attention (2 comments). But there was a substantial discussion last week: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29714752

That post lacked all the details. Perhaps this post that does will provoke more informed discussion.
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