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Poll: Which FAANG is the most likely to decline in the years ahead?

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I don't see how Netflix will hold ground. Streaming tech is now a commodity, not a moat. 2-3 years ago I would have said Netflix is the streaming sub to have. Hard to say that now. Disney, HBO and Amazon also have great original content and huge catalogues that could sustain a family as the only sub. Apple is growing a small but quality catalogue, and bundling within the ubiquitous iCloud package. Amazon has a massive bought-in base being that they bundled it with Prime shipping. There are countless other legacy network subs and content re-packagings to choose from.

So I don't see Netflix as particular a leader in content, scale, or value.

Their best (only?) post-streaming tech innovation is the collaborative filtering. A way of finding something passable to watch that is better that channel flipping broadcast TV. Now there is so much great content that people just go straight to the show with the buzz.

If there is one promising area they lead now I'd say it's internationalized content like Squid Game and Money Heist, but I'm not convinced this is big enough moat.

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post #298

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They still mail dvd's. I have a coworker who still uses their mail plan. I kinda considered it silly at first by now I'm thinking this is the way to go. It's relatively cheap compared to renting movies via amazon etc. He gets them fast. Blu-ray quality is better than streaming in some cases.

> Blu-ray quality is better than streaming in some cases. The wording here sounded a bit off to me here; I read it as "usually Blu-ray quality is worse or the same as streaming quality but sometimes it's better" while I think what you probably meant (and would make a lot more sense) was "usually streaming is just as good as Blu-ray but sometimes the streaming quality is bad and a Blu-ray is better". Is the latter wha…

Blu Ray quality is always better than streaming, by an order of magnitude. Blu Ray 4k has a bitrate of between 92 and 144Mb/s[1], Netflix bitrate at 4K is around 16Mb/s[2] - the resolution is the same but online streaming platforms will need to use loads of compression or most of their user base would not have a fast enough connection to watch video in 4K.

Full HD 1080p bitrates are a similar story, Blu Ray is much higher than streaming (36Mb/s vs around 6Mb/s, respectively)[3][4].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_HD_Blu-ray

[2] https://big-photography.com/guides/what-is-netflix-4k-bitrat...

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray#Bit_rate

[4] https://www.howtogeek.com/338983/how-much-data-does-netflix-...

Re: Poll: Which FAANG is the most likely to decline in the years ahead?

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Why the hell does netflix has so many upvotes? i would pay triple their max subscription fee for their content!

For me it has to be Google, yeah FB too for obvious reasons but Google got too big and their products have been showing a detrimental pattern. They will be around but people are using tiktok and friends in lieu of youtube and their main revenue source is ADs via search and I see many good competitors in that space. New apps and enganging services don't really rely on google search. The main spenders are merchants and being able to get virtual foot traffic without Google's help is getting easier by the day.

Both Google and FB (Alphabet/Meta) are clouded by the arrogance an deep pocket brings where they thing their cash will somehow overcome the law of diminishing returns. Their historical predecessors like AT&T, IBM & Cisco are good examples. You can tell by how they treat their customers. Apple and Amazon know better, they keep their status because they know their deep pockets are always vulnerable and they need to treat their users very well even if they have to treat their employees like shit. I thing google and fb will just keep investing in new companies, lawyers and lobbyists to rhyme with history.

Example: I thing GCP is superior but I would bet on AWS support more than GCP any day! I think android can be customized to provide a better security and private environment but I would bet having a good UX with iOS any day.

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How is the Witcher woke? I actually haven’t really heard this before so I’m genuinely interested to hear your thoughts on it.

Many of the characters have been changed (in personality/storyline and in ethnicity) from the books and from the games. For example Yennefer is no longer a mature, smart person but now is a stereotypical "I'm a strong independent woman" character that has the personality of a 15 year old. Triss is completely different from the books and game. Fringilla magically changed to be black even though EVERY other Nilfgaardia…

> characters have been changed ... Yennefer is no longer a mature, smart person but now is a stereotypical "I'm a strong independent woman" character that has the personality of a 15 year old. Triss is completely different from the books and game

That doesn't sound like wokeness, it sounds like a character change that you just don't like. Fair enough, but it's not wokeness.

> Fringilla magically changed to be black even though EVERY other Nilfgaardian is white. Side characters were changed to be black

I just finished watching this series. Some actors have dark skin but it's not part of their character or even mentioned. There's no reference to any sort of Black culture or even nation in-universe where people tend darker. There's no sense in which they are black except for the literal colour of their skin. And at that level, there's no sense in which the characters in the books aren't black. There's no "changed to be black" here.

I assumed you had some objection about the actual storyline which does in fact revolve around discrimination against Witchers, racism and genocide and slavery against Elves, culture wars between nations, and cultures domineering others through centuries of abuse and slavery. But really you're just annoyed that some actors are black?

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For many this is not wishing for cable again, rather going _back_ to pirating, which was itself better than cable. Certainly myriad streaming services are better than cable- but are they better than pirating? Harder to be confident of that now than a few years ago

>but are they better than pirating? Absolutely not. I am absolutely confident of that statement. One box of drives, a small machine to act as a Plex server, and VPN is all you need. Pre-made, high quality tools exist to automate everything. It's almost completely friction-less. Pirating is easier, better, and faster now than it has ever been. The push to splinter streaming services is only speeding up its adoption, a…

I'm not sure who downvoted you, but I cannot agree more.

For giggles, I just went ahead and priced this out:

One-time costs:

* Plex Pass: $80

* NZB indexer access: $10 (for 2 or 3)

Ongoing monthly costs:

* File server (three-year deprecation): $55

* IPTV: $15

* Unlimited Usenet account: $3

This took an afternoon of setup, but has just worked since. Heck, the other day I discovered a new season of a show had apparently been released – because it completed downloading and filled Plex overnight.

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I'm shocked that FB has so many votes here. FB may be getting slaughtered by the media, hated by both the left and the right, but the truth is no one is actually leaving FB. It's still the #1 place to find restaurants, buy/sell used items, neighborhood groups, etc etc etc. And if FB Proper were to ever fall behind, IG still has a lot of stamina left. I don't think it will happen any time soon, but I would like to see…

I'm not sure how facebook fares in big cities, but back where I'm from - a small rural town, facebook has pretty much replaced everything. It's the de facto digital community place.

Want to get regular updates from local businesses, local government, hobby groups, sports and cultural events? You'll find it on FB. Sure, most of those also have their own dedicated websites or similar, 90% of the most recent info comes to FB first.

Same goes for community groups, public announcements, and what not. Older people (50 and up) are well-established on FB, and have no plans to move anywhere else. So it might be true that FB has become a "boomer platform", but at least those users are very active and very loyal. Many of these older users get all their news and updates via FB.

I'd imagine that this would be the case in similar towns and places.

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#427
I quit facebook (as a user, never worked for them). I may drop Netflix. I've been mad at apple ever since I bought a powerbook that crapped out within a year and a few months, just outside the warranty (I never bought the extended, it was Mac, they never break), and was told I'd have to pay $350 to fix it (I didn't damage it in any way, it was just a turkey of a product), but I'm still using an iPhone. Amazon prime remains immensely popular in my household both for movies and tv shows and ordering gifts, books and groceries, and while I'd like to to use it less, I don't see that happening. I use Firefox and duckduckgo as much as I can, but still use gmail, google docs, search, and google cloudplatform and AI notebooks - the latter extensively.

No idea if my own personal preferences or needs have anything to do with overall appeal or decline.

I worked for Sun Microsystems once, late 90s-2001. A lot of people figured the dot com thing would take a tumble, but felt good about Sun's prospects (as workers and as an investment) because Sun made real tangible things, servers and workstations.

Amazon, at the time, was a bookstore with a "dot com" tacked on to the end.

Apple hadn't yet released OS X and was often accused of coasting on good looks and being pretty.

There was no facebook and wouldn't be for a few more years... there was "the globe", friendster, a few of those. When I was at Sun, I sat in an office that is now facebook.

Google was around, though a lot of people were saying search was no longer a differentiator, and that the important thing for a search engine was to become a portal and be "sticky", and be a bit more like a content provider, entertainment hub, and so forth.

The people who thought Sun was a good bet made perfect sense - in retrospect, they had it wrong, and some people accurately pointed this out at the time... but you could make a reasonable case for Sun.

So... just sayin'

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post #216

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And they've been actively harming that idea by then canceling pretty much everything by the third season.

I keep hearing this from people, so I must be in the minority. But I actually like the fact that they do limited run or self contained shows. Not only does it mean that the show doesn't drag on for 10 seasons slowly reducing in quality until it's axed due to waning viewership. But I've found their limited series runs to be more engaging since the writers and director are able to tell a self contained and complete sto…

I've always said that I have a 5 season rule--especially with network-length 20 episode seasons. Hit somewhere in that vicinity and I'm tired of the setting, style, and characters. There are a number of series who got to the 5, 6, 7 season point and even though they didn't necessarily "jump the shark" I just got less and less interested in them and eventually stopped watching.

I actually really like the fact that streaming helps allow for limited runs with episodes of the length that they want to be though one always hopes that a series ends at a natural point.

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Same. We are back in the TV bundle channel era, unfortunately.

True, but the price seems a bit lower (for now). A fully loaded cable account back in the day for me was $180 (including internet). Now days you can get internet for $50 or $100 (depending on location, speed etc). Then if you wanted say 5 of the various platforms, that's going to roughly be $50 to $70 more. So that's still a likely savings. And on top of that, all new movies are basically being PRODUCED by these netw…

I haven't had a cable subscription in years. I think almost 5 or 6 years now. It's been a combination of streaming, movie rentals (streaming), and BitTorrent downloads.

And yes, it definitely can be cheaper if you willing to actively manage what subscriptions you need and don't need one month at a time.

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post #423

Why the hell does netflix has so many upvotes? i would pay triple their max subscription fee for their content! For me it has to be Google, yeah FB too for obvious reasons but Google got too big and their products have been showing a detrimental pattern. They will be around but people are using tiktok and friends in lieu of youtube and their main revenue source is ADs via search and I see many good competitors in tha…

>Why the hell does netflix has so many upvotes?

I contributed to this. My first thought was that netflix doesn't really have special sauce anymore. They exist in a highly competitive market and lack the back catalog of established media companies. As a result, they end up paying way too much money for both new shows, and established ones.

On the other side of the coin, they can't compete with the volume of free content that is created by YouTube.

It's pretty easy to start a streaming service today, and many specialized streaming services have been successful.

In my person experience, my NF usage has gone to zero, being replaced with YouTube, Nebula, and HBOMax, with the occasional hop onto Prime for the odd rental. And I was as big of a NF diehard as any; I was paying for streaming since they started offering it.

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