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Speaking Freely: Why I resigned from the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation

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Post by olivermarks »

ineptech wrote: post #283
olivermarks wrote: post #163

Strange thread here ignoring the very important points about the media Tara is making. 'Those of us on the inside know just how swiftly — and how dramatically — the politics of the public broadcaster have shifted. It used to be that I was the one furthest to the left in any newsroom, occasionally causing strain in story meetings with my views on issues like the housing crisis. I am now easily the most conservative, f…

The main points of this article (roughly, that the supposedly-centrist-but-actually-left-wing media now cares more about wokeness than real news) have been made prominently and continuously since the days of Rush Limbaugh. The old joke about liberal media coverage of the apocalypse ("WORLD ENDS, WOMEN AND MINORITIES HIT HARDEST") dates from 1988.

The political center wanders more than the magnetic north pole at the moment!

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Post by netizen-936824 »

kennywinker wrote: post #266
wussboy wrote: post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The antipathy between “try something new” and “stick with what works” is so frustrating because they so clearly go hand in hand. “If the Left wing or the Right wing ever got control of this country, it would fly around in circles.”

This is a classic centrist position - the left and the right are both radical, pick a point halfway between and you're good - but I would argue that the US and Canada have been largely ruled by centrism for the past 30 years and things have been getting worse and worse in that time.

In trying to make everyone happy, progress slows to a crawl because nobody can agree. Too many people have too many different perspectives, but people don't realise how very different others perceive reality

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Post by olivermarks »

consumer451 wrote: post #280
InTheArena wrote: post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the Overton window at work: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window In the US, it goes far beyond broadcasting. Note how lin manuel miranda's Hamilton has gone from Obama era cultural gold to "cringe-worthy" - https://www.vox.com/22641501/hamilton-parks-rec-harry-potter... Or how JKR on Harry Potter went from being vilified by conservative voices to the modern "She who will not be named" of Lefty HBO.

And a different edge of said window expanded to include actual ethno-fascists. This is not whataboutism, just want to portray the scenario in a more complete light.

Actual ethno-fascists?

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Post by boppo1 »

ILMostro7 wrote: post #117

Yeah, those abolishinists and civil rights protesters were very unpopular. These "woke extremists" are not sympathetic to how most people around me feel about them.

Abolitionists and civil rights protestors had more clearly defined 'win' conditions. What is the end goal for 'woke extremists'? A person who was previously my friend could not articulate it to me. He said 'when white supremacy is gone' and then regularly leveled that label at every single thing you can think of, including Netflix, my parents, museums, and more.

I have heard that "discomfort is part of the process" but also that "there's always more work to do." My friend and I had "difficult conversations" about "doing the hard work" and I kept agreeing with him against my own beliefs and letting him go on about this stuff until one day he cut me out of his life anyway for not being woke enough.

I am sincerely at a loss for understanding.

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Post by pessimizer »

YZF wrote: post #172
paganel wrote: post #89

> It is to become less adversarial to government and corporations and more hostile to ordinary people with ideas that Twitter doesn’t like Very glad this got mentioned, in all of this people have forgotten who their enemies really are: the government for some, the big corporations for other, sure as hell the real enemy is not Sam from around the block who doesn't believe in LGTBQ rights. Sam doesn't have an ounce of…

Enemies? Sam has a lot of power. We've seen over the last few decades how speech influences a lot of Sams and completely changes society. Society is the sum of all Sams and Sams have a lot of power. Sam from around the block is the Sam that used to report or burn the witches in the 1500's. Now LGBTQ isn't necessarily the dearest topic to my heart, but freedom is and this is just one aspect of it. Racism and bigotry a…

> Sam has a lot of power. We've seen over the last few decades how speech influences a lot of Sams and completely changes society.

You've said this, but you haven't argued it. Sam didn't make America racist.

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Post by ineptech »

ineptech wrote: post #63
badRNG wrote: post #22

I'm not sure these sorts of articles provide much value on HN. By "these sorts of articles", I mean the ones that have claimed that "diversity efforts have gone too far this time ." Regardless of your support or opposition to diversity, I think one would agree that these rapidly turn into unproductive, highly divisive comment sections that are out of place with the rest of HN.

They very reliably rise to the front page (because people like arguing about this stuff) and then sink off again (because, I believe, the HN algorithm penalizes a low upvote-to-comment-count ratio). I predict this'll be gone in two hours...

Update: it's off the main page, actual elapsed time was about 90 minutes.

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Post by jtbayly »

inglor_cz wrote: post #243
lazyasciiart wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is reductive to the point of being incorrect. "Social stuff" includes things like maternity leave, childcare, healthcare, incarceration and drug policies. California is proud that they ended sentences of life-without-parole for children in 2017 - and replaced it with life-with-possible-parole-after-25-years, which remains far worse than Denmark permits even for the worst adult crime (life with possible parole af…

Fine, I meant "woke stuff" that excites Twitter so much and makes so many non-Twitterati confused and perplexed. What you mention used to be a typical left-wing agenda, but is increasingly being utterly forgotten by the younger generations of left-wing politicians.

Exactly. The context being the discussion of the article where that's made clear.

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Post by metabagel »

lnxg33k1 wrote: post #263
p_j_w wrote: post #260

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>we have to be careful for example about using the right pronouns in order to accomodate the need of like a 0.% of the population Is this really a problem? It's a zero cost action.

It would be, it could be, but the few times that you refer to a person with the wrong pronoun then you are likely to be offended and to be lectured about how you didn't understand that they were something else

More likely, the person will simply ignore it. There are exceptions of course, and I think you have those exceptions in mind with your comment.
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