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Speaking Freely: Why I resigned from the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation

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Re: Speaking Freely: Why I resigned from the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation

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Post by CoastalCoder »

citilife wrote: post #211
commandlinefan wrote: post #101

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It seems to me that HN is the last place you can discuss this topic - it's just preemptively deleted on Reddit, Facebook, Twitter, etc.

Based on the number of flagged posts I've seen on here... I think it's not preemptively deleted, but it is very self-censoring.

I think I saw a few of the posts that got flagged. I'm guessing they were flagged not because of their viewpoint or argument, but because of their tone/hostility.

FWIW, I do think that HN has a problem with downvoting minority viewpoints. I'm just not sure that's what happened here.

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Post by john_moscow »

lnxg33k1 wrote: post #248

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Unfortunately, that's ultimately the goal of the craze the media is pushing, and it fuels the endless narrative about discrimination. If we want sanity to win, we need to get back to judging people based on their behavior other than affiliation, against the immense media pressure to do otherwise.

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Post by lnxg33k1 »

p_j_w wrote: post #260
lnxg33k1 wrote: post #248

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>we have to be careful for example about using the right pronouns in order to accomodate the need of like a 0.% of the population Is this really a problem? It's a zero cost action.

It would be, it could be, but the few times that you refer to a person with the wrong pronoun then you are likely to be offended and to be lectured about how you didn't understand that they were something else

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Post by dragonwriter »

AlexandrB wrote: post #255
citilife wrote: post #229

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> In the United States the Overton Window is so far right even the Democratic Party is center-right. I'm sorry, but what? Within the party, they've promoted universal basic income (marxisim), state healthcare, universal education, etc. It's almost completely authoritarian marxist. They're far left of most of Europe in terms of social policy (LGBTQ+ rights, abortion, drugs, etc) and economic (complete universal educat…

Let's take the example of state healthcare. The Democratic Party talks a big game about universal healthcare at election time, but only ever proposes modest reforms (like the ACA) when it's time to craft policy. Meanwhile many (all?) European countries actually have some form of state-run or state-funded universal healthcare. The Democrat Party is only "far left" if you believe their wildest election rhetoric and don…

> The Democratic Party talks a big game about universal healthcare at election time

No, it doesn't, at least if you are talking about general elections since the failure of Clinton's reforms in the 1990s. Since then, it's talked about moderate mitigations of the problem of massive gaps in the healthcare system, or, more recently, simply about not continuing dismantling past progress on that issue.

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Post by paulsutter »

pessimizer wrote: post #240
paulsutter wrote: post #37

Left and liberal do not mean the same thing. Basically all of my blue or red friends agree with the principles of Liberalism, which brought us the enlightenment and [modern] civilization. You can ask your own friends, here's a definition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism (quote below) In terms of numbers, about 8% of the US population is.. left. 25% is traditional conservative. And the other 67% is regular fo…

Over the past ten years, there's been a weird collaboration between centrists and right-wingers to define not being a bigot as being left-wing and being a bigot as being right-wing. So corporate PR has transformed huge employers and the finance industry into left-wingers, and when right-wingers complain about being silenced, they're specifically talking about being censored about race and gender. This creates the fal…

Not trying to associate any specific issues, just pointing out the surprisingly broad appeal of Liberalism as defined. Really an eye-opener the responses I got sharing that with folks.

Yes both parties have a bizarre set of priorities, conveniently avoiding the really important questions (like the two you raise)

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Post by kennywinker »

wussboy wrote: post #207
david38 wrote: post #130

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Broadly speaking, the left likes to go come up with new ways of doing things, the right likes to implement the "tried and true". Almost by definition, this means the left is always trying many things (always need the next new thing) and the right is consolidating on what they perceive to be the best of the tried and true.

The antipathy between “try something new” and “stick with what works” is so frustrating because they so clearly go hand in hand. “If the Left wing or the Right wing ever got control of this country, it would fly around in circles.”

This is a classic centrist position - the left and the right are both radical, pick a point halfway between and you're good - but I would argue that the US and Canada have been largely ruled by centrism for the past 30 years and things have been getting worse and worse in that time.

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Post by disentanglement »

citilife wrote: post #229
CapitalistCartr wrote: post #94

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In the United States the Overton Window is so far right even the Democratic Party is center-right. In a Scandinavian Country I'd be a fairly moderate, conservative social democrat. Here, if people knew my thoughts, I'd be seen as a Wild-Eyed Radical. But given the politics in my country, I've given up compromise and actually moved further Left. And more militant, less quiet. Luckily, the organization I'm currently in…

> In the United States the Overton Window is so far right even the Democratic Party is center-right. I'm sorry, but what? Within the party, they've promoted universal basic income (marxisim), state healthcare, universal education, etc. It's almost completely authoritarian marxist. They're far left of most of Europe in terms of social policy (LGBTQ+ rights, abortion, drugs, etc) and economic (complete universal educat…

Your comment calling political measures which are universally accepted across the entire range of politics in Europe (state healthcare, universal education, ...) authoritarian marxist is a hilarious example of what the top poster meant by "the Overton Window is so far right even the Democratic Party is center-right".

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Post by telesilla »

throwaway4aday wrote: post #205
telesilla wrote: post #70

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Suggest to them that they talk about exactly what you are saying here. Say that it's difficult. That we are figuring it out. Put together exhibitions that talk about it. That's a hell of a lot better than shutting down communication. Be inclusive. Ask for help from other galleries who have better representation. Maybe they can do an exchange. Identify what there is to be afraid of - it's the necessary step to moving…

They are afraid of online mobs and local activists looking for a target. That's what everyone is afraid of when it comes to this foolish moment in history. If it was simply a matter of being more inclusive there'd be nothing to worry about. Instead, everyone's trying to cover their ass and not stick out so they don't become the next takedown. The funny thing is if you just ignore social media, none of this has any di…

>online mobs and local activists looking for a targe

Do these actually exist in their local environment or are people just afraid because of what's going on over the media networks? Forgive me, as I'm outside of where you are and I often see people being afraid of things that aren't often there.

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Post by akomtu »

nefitty wrote: post #123
CapitalistCartr wrote: post #30

Except at political groups to which I belong, I am almost always the left-most person in the room. The Lefts greatest weakness is an enthusiasm for splintering over small matters of doctrine. Identity politics, tribalism over principle, virtue signaling, whatever fad this is, it's deeply hurting progress.

Peter Thiel (gay man), Caitlyn Jenner (trans woman) and Kanye West (black man) all publicly support Donald Trump. It's not identity that's the issue, it's economic inequality. Even as part of marginalized groups, these people's vast wealth allowed them the luxury to support a man who did not have marginalized group's best interests in mind. If I was rich and wanted to take over a local government, I would channel my…

Or if you were China preparing to challenge the US in ten years, it would be wise to give money to key US insitutions so they would implement the most radical and divisive policies they can come up with.

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Post by john_moscow »

p_j_w wrote: post #260
lnxg33k1 wrote: post #248

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>we have to be careful for example about using the right pronouns in order to accomodate the need of like a 0.% of the population Is this really a problem? It's a zero cost action.

It's not. It costs attention - and that's the primary battleground of the information society. To divert the masses attention from the goals that could help them unite.
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