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Poll: Which FAANG is the most likely to decline in the years ahead?

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Re: Poll: Which FAANG is the most likely to decline in the years ahead?

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Post by willcipriano »

lonesword wrote: post #45
willcipriano wrote: post #28

Amazon is the only one on that list that has actively reached out to me, it's also the only one I'd never interview at given what I've heard about working conditions there. Some places seem to keep everything on fire all the time and have big expectations on engineers personal time to keep the fires from consuming the business, Amazon is like that from what I've heard.

Really depends on your team, and your manager. I'm actually having a pretty good time (in Europe) - there's absolutely no expectation to work overtime/weekends.

Don't you only find out the team/manager at the end of the process? I'm self taught so I assume I'll get stuck on a bad team at least to start.

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Post by SavantIdiot »

kdmccormick wrote: post #43
propter_hoc wrote: post #4

Netflix's inclusion in this list instead of Microsoft may have been the best investor-relations coup in history.

+1, it's ridiculous and misleading that Netflix is still being included in this list after all this time. Netflix is a TV company. Their tech is a commodity. An important commodity, for sure, but it's not what makes them valuable. Their critical offering is their reach and programming. FAAMG (or MAAAM now, I guess?) is a sane grouping of giant companies because their critical offerings and expertise areas are their s…

Is their tech a commodity? I knew one of the principals (who was hired away by Uber for an ungodly sum of money) who had spent years writing a lot of proprietary networking code. I don't think that IP is a commodity, is it?

Re: Poll: Which FAANG is the most likely to decline in the years ahead?

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Post by [deleted] »

mech422 wrote: post #66
ecshafer wrote: post #25

Facebook is currently ahead, but I wonder how much of that is perception. There is a lot of media about how Facebook is evil, but that is mostly from a pretty small circle of media and political people, that Facebook is naturally in opposition to. Facebook also owns instagram and whatsapp as well. But everyone over 30 I know uses Facebook, heavily. Instagram is also used very heavily. Amazon has threats from other E-…

Personally, I think FB is in trouble because it became 'your grandmothers social media'... the youngsters seem more interested in insta and tiktok

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Post by flyrom99 »

guerrilla wrote: post #89

Why do people hate Netflix? I'm out of the loop on that...

I don't think they hate netflix, it's just that there are so many competitors to netflix at this point that it is hard to afford/use all of them and this amount of competition might hurt netflix in the long run.

Re: Poll: Which FAANG is the most likely to decline in the years ahead?

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Post by baxtr »

Ok. So FB ends up getting the top spot, which needs to be discounted by the utter hate for the company on HN. (They're called Meta btw) :)

But, surprisingly Netflix seems to ending up on second place. I think that's shortsighted and not taking into account how deeply they're integrated into the film production industry by now.

It's one thing to build a streaming platform and acquire some customers. It's a whole different game to do this and create great content.

PS: My bet is google. Just look at their deteriorating search results and the missing other revenue streams.

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Post by cmsj »

jhbadger wrote: post #70
ecshafer wrote: post #25

Facebook is currently ahead, but I wonder how much of that is perception. There is a lot of media about how Facebook is evil, but that is mostly from a pretty small circle of media and political people, that Facebook is naturally in opposition to. Facebook also owns instagram and whatsapp as well. But everyone over 30 I know uses Facebook, heavily. Instagram is also used very heavily. Amazon has threats from other E-…

I think they've lost GenZ, though. Boomers and GenX use Facebook, Millennials use Instagram, but GenZ uses TickTock, and unlike with Instagram, it doesn't look like they can just buy it out to reach the next generation.

I would fully expect this trend to continue - each new generational cohort will latch onto a new social network that is separate from the ones their lame parents and older siblings use.

This poses a massive institutional risk to any social network. They either need to aggressively pump out new brands to try and capture that themselves, or buy promising startups, but it wouldn't be too difficult to fail at both of those and just completely skip a generation. A few of those misses added up could be a terminal failure.

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Post by Hamuko »

sgt wrote: post #39
artemonster wrote: post #15

I have loads of friends who started to cancel their netflix subs and went back to piracy because they grew tired of searching for a way to watch something legally. Now its disney, hbo, prime, whatever. Screw all of this.

Yeah and have you noticed how the industry doesn't really want you to watch old stuff? Obviously they want to keep peddling new movies and series, so it does make sense, but I think it should be easier to find old classic movies. I often have to resort to torrents for this reason alone.

But surely it makes more sense to peddle old movies and TV shows because you've already made them. Isn't that why content creation is so lucrative - you make it once and then sell it for years and years?

Re: Poll: Which FAANG is the most likely to decline in the years ahead?

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

artemonster wrote: post #15

I have loads of friends who started to cancel their netflix subs and went back to piracy because they grew tired of searching for a way to watch something legally. Now its disney, hbo, prime, whatever. Screw all of this.

My only problem at this point with going back to piracy is that the torrent sites I used to rely on are dead, and if there's a modern replacement for Covenant that actually works then I don't know what it is.

Covenant on Kodi was the first and last time I actually felt like TV was in the future.

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Post by stouset »

janosett wrote: post #79
iso1210 wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All of that is way cheaper (currently) than cable. The biggest problem is finding what you want. Need a TV Guide for streaming, so I can search for say "The Martian", and it would tell me "This is on netflix in your country", or "this isn't available on subscription, but you can rent it on amazon for x.xx or buy it on apple tv for y.yy"

The Apple TV does this, essentially.

It does, but Netflix is the one provider (that I know of) that's decided to entirely opt out of Apple TV integration, so I can't add any of their shows to my universal queue and have to specifically switch to Netflix to see what I'm in the middle of or want I to watch next.

Re: Poll: Which FAANG is the most likely to decline in the years ahead?

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Post by warp »

jeffdubin wrote: post #51

Amazon, Apple, and Google are each well-entrenched and also have a good bit of cash and patents available to pivot or crush competitors if necessary. Plus if broken up (e.g. by gov't antitrust regs, etc.) each would have multiple sustainable businesses that could survive independently of the main company. Netflix will buy/be bought. Much like cell phone carriers, ISPs, and CATV companies, consolidation will leave onl…

I think many people underestimate how much of a foothold Facebook has outside of the USA with Whatsapp and Instagram.

Especially in countries without net neutrality, social networks may be included in your phone plan even when real internet isn't -- forcing many local businesses to interact with their customers over instagram, whatsapp or facebook messenger. (Having a website is pointless if most of your customers cannot reach it).

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